On Sat, 4 August 2007 21:21:30 +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:

* JA?rn Engel [off-list ref] wrote:

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I actually vote for that.  IMO, distros should turn -on- atime 
updates when they know its needed.

If you mean "relatime" I concur.  "noatime" hurts mutt and others 
while "relatime" has no known problems, afaics.

so ... one app can keep 30,000+ apps hostage?

i use Mutt myself, on such a filesystem:

   /dev/md0 on / type ext3 (rw,noatime,nodiratime,user_xattr)

and i can see no problems, it notices new mails just fine.

Given the choice between only "atime" and "noatime" I'd agree with you.
Heck, I use it myself.  But "relatime" seems to combine the best of both
worlds.  It currently just suffers from mount not supporting it in any
relevant distro.

JA?rn

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