Thread (89 messages) 89 messages, 18 authors, 2017-05-13

[kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH v9 1/4] syscalls: Verify address limit before returning to user-mode

From: viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk (Al Viro)
Date: 2017-05-12 22:58:16
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On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 05:47:55PM -0400, Rik van Riel wrote:
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Seriously, look at these beasts.??Overwriting ->addr_limit is nowhere
near
the top threat.??If attacker can overwrite thread_info, you have
lost.
That is why THREAD_INFO_IN_TASK exists. It moves
the struct thread_info to a location away from the
stack, which means a stack overflow will not overwrite
the thread_info.
... in which case such attacks on ->addr_limit also become a non-issue.

AFAICS, we are mixing several unrelated issues here:
	* amount of places where set_fs() is called.  Sure, reducing it
is a good idea and we want to move to primitives like kernel_write() et.al.
Fewer users => lower odds of screwing it up.
	* making sure that remaining callers are properly paired.  Ditto.
	* switching to ->read_iter()/->write_iter() where it makes sense.
Again, no problem with that.
	* providing sane environment for places like perf/oprofile.  Again,
a good idea, and set_fs(USER_DS) is only a part of what's needed there.
	* switching _everything_ to ->read_iter()/->write_iter().  Flat-out
insane and AFAICS nobody is signing up for that.
	* getting rid of set_fs() entirely.  I'm afraid that it's not feasible
without the previous one and frankly, I don't see much point.
	* sanity-checking on return to userland.  Maybe useful, maybe not.
	* taking thread_info out of the way of stack overflows.  Reasonable,
but has very little to do with the rest of that.
	* protecting against Lovecraftian horrors slithering in from the outer
space only to commit unspeakable acts against ->addr_limit and ignoring much
tastier targets next to it, but then what do you expect from degenerate
spawn of Great Old Ones - sanity?
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