Thread (89 messages) 89 messages, 18 authors, 2017-05-13

[kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH v9 1/4] syscalls: Verify address limit before returning to user-mode

From: Kees Cook <hidden>
Date: 2017-05-12 21:17:25
Also in: linux-api, linux-s390, lkml

On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 2:06 PM, Al Viro [off-list ref] wrote:
On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 09:21:06PM +0100, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
quoted
On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 12:30:02PM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
quoted
I'm clearly not explaining things well enough. I shouldn't say
"corruption", I should say "malicious manipulation". The methodology
of attacks against the stack are quite different from the other kinds
of attacks like use-after-free, heap overflow, etc. Being able to
exhaust the kernel stack (either due to deep recursion or unbounded
alloca())
I really hope we don't have alloca() use in the kernel.  Do you have
evidence to support that assertion?

IMHO alloca() (or similar) should not be present in any kernel code
because we have a limited stack - we have kmalloc() etc for that kind
of thing.
No alloca(), but there are VLAs.  Said that, the whole "what if they
can bugger thread_info and/or task_struct and go after set_fs() state"
is idiocy, of course - in that case the box is fucked, no matter what.
Two things are at risk from stack exhaustion: thread_info (mainly
addr_limit) when on the stack (fixed by THREAD_INFO_IN_TASK), and
overflow into adjacent allocations (fixed by VMAP_STACK). The latter
is fundamentally a heap overflow.

-Kees

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Kees Cook
Pixel Security
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