Re: [PATCH 9/9] net: vm deadlock avoidance core
From: Evgeniy Polyakov <hidden>
Date: 2007-01-18 10:42:14
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On Wed, Jan 17, 2007 at 10:07:28AM +0100, Peter Zijlstra (a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl) wrote:
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You operate with 'current' in different contexts without any locks which looks racy and even is not allowed. What will be 'current' for netif_rx() case, which schedules softirq from hard irq context - ksoftirqd, why do you want to set its flags?I don't touch current in hardirq context, do I (if I did, that is indeed a mistake)? In all other contexts, current is valid.
Well, if you think that setting PF_MEMALLOC flag for keventd and ksoftirqd is valid, then probably yes...
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I meant that you can just mark process which created such socket as PF_MEMALLOC, and clone that flag on forks and other relatest calls without all that checks for 'current' in different places.Ah, thats the wrong level to think here, these processes never reach user-space - nor should these sockets.You limit this just to send an ack? What about 'level-7' ack as you described in introduction?Take NFS, it does full data traffic in kernel.
NFS case is exactly the situation, when you only need to generate an ACK.
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Also, I only want the processing of the actual network packet to be able to eat the reserves, not any other thing that might happen in that context. And since network processing is mostly done in softirq context I must mark these sections like I did.You artificially limit system to just add a reserve to generate one ack. For that purpose you do not need to have all those flags - just reseve some data in network core and use it when system is in OOM (or reclaim) for critical data pathes.How would that end up being different, I would have to replace all allocations done in the full network processing path. This seems a much less invasive method, all the (allocation) code can stay the way it is and use the normal allocation functions.
Ack is only generated in one place in TCP. And acutally we are starting to talk about different approach - having separated allocator for network, which will be turned on on OOM (reclaim or at any other time). If you do not mind, I would likw to refresh a discussion about network tree allocator, which utilizes own pool of pages, performs self-defragmentation of the memeory, is very SMP friendly in that regard that it is per-cpu like slab and never free objects on different CPUs, so they always stay in the same cache. Among other goodies it allows to have full sending/receiving zero-copy. Here is a link: http://tservice.net.ru/~s0mbre/old/?section=projects&item=nta
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+ /* + decrease window size.. + tcp_enter_quickack_mode(sk); + */How does this decrease window size? Maybe ack scheduling would be better handled by inet_csk_schedule_ack() or just directly send an ack, which in turn requires allocation, which can be bound to this received frame processing...It doesn't, I thought that it might be a good idea doing that, but never got around to actually figuring out how to do it.tcp_send_ack()?does that shrink the window automagically?Yes, it updates window, but having ack generated in that place is actually very wrong. In that place system has not processed incoming packet yet, so it can not generate correct ACK for received frame at all. And it seems that the only purpose of the whole patchset is to generate that poor ack - reseve 2007 ack packets (MAX_TCP_HEADER) in system startup and reuse them when you are under memory pressure.Right, I suspected something like that; hence I wanted to just shrink the window. Anyway, this is not a very important issue.
tcp_enter_quickack_mode() does not update window, it allows to send ack immediately after packet has been processed, window can be changed in any way TCP state machine and congestion control want. -- Evgeniy Polyakov