Thread (83 messages) 83 messages, 14 authors, 2017-12-01

[kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH v5 next 5/5] net: modules: use request_module_cap() to load 'netdev-%s' modules

From: torvalds@linux-foundation.org (Linus Torvalds)
Date: 2017-11-28 20:33:26
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On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 12:20 PM, Kees Cook [off-list ref] wrote:
So what's the right path forward for allowing a way to block
autoloading? Separate existing request_module() calls into "must be
privileged" and "can be unpriv" first, then rework the series to deal
with the "unpriv okay" subset?
So once we've taken care of the networking ones that check their own
different capability bit, maybe we can then make the regular
request_module() do a rate-limited warning for non-CAP_SYS_MODULE uses
that prints which module it's loading.

And then just see what people report.

Because maybe it's just a very small handful that matters, and we can
say "those are ok".

And maybe that is too optimistic, and we have a lot of device driver
ones because people still have a static /dev and don't have udev
populating modules and device nodes, and then maybe we need to
introduce a "request_module_dev()" where the rule is that you had to
at least have privileges to open the device node.

Because I really am *not* interested in these security flags that are
off by default and then get turned on by special cases. I think it's
completely unacceptable to say "we're insecure by default but then you
can do X and be secure". It doesn't work. It doesn't fix anything.

                 Linus
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