Thread (30 messages) 30 messages, 9 authors, 2020-09-30

Re: [RFC PATCH net-next 0/6] implement kthread based napi poll

From: Wei Wang <hidden>
Date: 2020-09-29 20:17:16

On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 12:19 PM Jakub Kicinski [off-list ref] wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2020 19:43:36 +0200 Eric Dumazet wrote:
quoted
Wei, this is a very nice work.

Please re-send it without the RFC tag, so that we can hopefully merge it ASAP.
The problem is for the application I'm testing with this implementation
is significantly slower (in terms of RPS) than Felix's code:

              |        L  A  T  E  N  C  Y       |  App   |     C P U     |
       |  RPS |   AVG  |  P50  |   P99  |   P999 | Overld |  busy |  PSI  |
thread | 1.1% | -15.6% | -0.3% | -42.5% |  -8.1% | -83.4% | -2.3% | 60.6% |
work q | 4.3% | -13.1% |  0.1% | -44.4% |  -1.1% |   2.3% | -1.2% | 90.1% |
TAPI   | 4.4% | -17.1% | -1.4% | -43.8% | -11.0% | -60.2% | -2.3% | 46.7% |

thread is this code, "work q" is Felix's code, TAPI is my hacks.

The numbers are comparing performance to normal NAPI.

In all cases (but not the baseline) I configured timer-based polling
(defer_hard_irqs), with around 100us timeout. Without deferring hard
IRQs threaded NAPI is actually slower for this app. Also I'm not
modifying niceness, this again causes application performance
regression here.
If I remember correctly, Felix's workqueue code uses HIGHPRIO flag
which by default uses -20 as the nice value for the workqueue threads.
But the kthread implementation leaves nice level as 20 by default.
This could be 1 difference.
I am not sure what the benchmark is doing, but one thing to try is to
limit the CPUs that run the kthreads to a smaller # of CPUs. This
could bring up the kernel cpu usage to a higher %, e.g. > 80%, so the
scheduler is less likely to schedule user threads on these CPUs, thus
providing isolations between kthreads and the user threads, and
reducing the scheduling overhead. This could help if the throughput
drop is caused by higher scheduling latency for the user threads.
Another thing to try is to raise the scheduling class of the kthread
from SCHED_OTHER to SCHED_FIFO. This could help if the throughput drop
is caused by the kthreads experiencing higher scheduling latency.

1 NUMA node. 18 NAPI instances each is around 25% of a single CPU.

I was initially hoping that TAPI would fit nicely as an extension
of this code, but I don't think that will be the case.

Are there any assumptions you're making about the configuration that
I should try to replicate?
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