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Re: NAPI, rx_no_buffer_count, e1000, r8169 and other actors

From: Stephen Hemminger <hidden>
Date: 2008-06-16 02:59:20

On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 00:46:22 +0100
Ben Hutchings [off-list ref] wrote:
Denys Fedoryshchenko wrote:
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Hi

Since i am using PC routers for my network, and i reach significant numbers
(for me significant) i start noticing minor problems. So all this talk about
networking performance in my case.

For example.
Sun server, AMD based (two CPU -  AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 248).
e1000 connected over PCI-X ([    4.919249] e1000: 0000:01:01.0: e1000_probe:
(PCI-X:100MHz:64-bit) 00:14:4f:20:89:f4)

All traffic processed over eth0, 5 VLAN, 1 second average around 110-200Mbps
Currently TX checksum offload does not work for VLAN devices, which may
be a serious performance hit if there is a lot of traffic routed between
VLANs.  This should change in 2.6.27 for some drivers, which I think will
include e1000.
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of traffic. Host running also conntrack (max 1000000 entries, when packetloss
happen - around 256k entries). Around 1300 routes (FIB_TRIE) running. What is
worrying me, that ok, i win time by increasing rx descriptors from 256 to
4096, but how much time i win? if it "cracks" on 100 Mbps RX, it means by
interpolating descriptors increase from 256 to 4096 (4 times), i cannot
process more than 400Mbps RX?
You are CPU limited because of the overhead of firewalling. When this happens
packets get backlogged.
Increasing the RX descriptor ring size should give the driver and stack
more time to catch up after handling some packets that take unusually
long.  It may also allow you to increase interrupt moderation, which
will reduce the per-packet cost.
No if the receive side is CPU limited, you just end up eating more memory.
A bigger queue may actually make performance worse (less cache hits).
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The CPU is not so busy after all... maybe there is a way to change some
parameter to force NAPI poll interface more often?
NAPI polling is not time-based, except indirectly though interrupt
moderation.
How are you measuring CPU? You need to do something like measure the available
cycles left for applications. Don't believe top or other measures that may
not reflect I/O overhead and bus usage. 
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I tried nice, changing realtime priority to FIFO, changing kernel to
preemptible... no luck, except increasing descriptors.

Router-Dora ~ # mpstat -P ALL 1
Linux 2.6.26-rc6-git2-build-0029 (Router-Dora)  06/15/08

22:51:02     CPU   %user   %nice    %sys %iowait    %irq   %soft  %steal  
%idle    intr/s
22:51:03     all    1.00    0.00    0.00    0.00    2.50   29.00    0.00  
67.50  12927.00
22:51:03       0    2.00    0.00    0.00    0.00    4.00   59.00    0.00  
35.00  11935.00
22:51:03       1    0.00    0.00    0.00    0.00    0.00    0.00    0.00 
100.00    993.00
22:51:03       2    0.00    0.00    0.00    0.00    0.00    0.00    0.00   
0.00      0.00
 
You might do better with a NIC that supports MSI-X.  This allows the use of
two RX queues with their own IRQs, each handled by a different processor.
As it is, one CPU is completely idle.  However, I don't know how well the
other work of routing scales to multiple processors.

Routing and firewalling should scale well. The deadlock is probably going
to be some hot lock like the transmit lock.
[...]
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I have another host running, Core 2 Duo, e1000e+3 x e100, also conntrack, same
kernel configuration and similar amount of traffic, higher load (ifb + plenty
of shapers running) - almost no errors on default settings.
Linux 2.6.26-rc6-git2-build-0029 (Kup)  06/16/08

07:00:27     CPU   %user   %nice    %sys %iowait    %irq   %soft  %steal  
%idle    intr/s
07:00:28     all    0.00    0.00    0.50    0.00    4.00   31.50    0.00  
64.00  32835.00
07:00:29     all    0.00    0.00    0.50    0.00    2.50   29.00    0.00  
68.00  33164.36

Third host r8169 (PCI! This is important, seems i am running out of PCI
capacity),
Gigabit Ethernet on plain old PCI is not ideal.  If each card has a
separate route to the south bridge then you might be able to get a fair
fraction of a gigabit between them though.
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400Mbit/s rx+tx summary load, e1000e interface also - around
200Mbps load. What is worrying me - interrupts rate, it seems generated by
realtek card... is there any way to drop it down? 
[...]

ethtool -C lets you change interrupt moderation.  I don't know anything
about this driver or NIC's capabilities but it does seem to be in the
cheapest GbE cards so I wouldn't expect outstanding performance.

Ben.
The bigger issues is available memory bandwidth. Different processors
and busses have different overheads. PCI is much worse than PCI-express,
and CPU's with integrated memory controllers do much better than CPU's
with separate memory controller (like Core 2).
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