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Re: [PATCH net-next] ibmvnic: Increase driver logging

From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
Date: 2020-07-16 20:24:12
Also in: netdev

On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 18:07:37 +0200 Michal Suchánek wrote:
On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 10:59:58AM -0500, Thomas Falcon wrote:
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On 7/15/20 8:29 PM, David Miller wrote:  
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From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2020 17:06:32 -0700
  
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On Wed, 15 Jul 2020 18:51:55 -0500 Thomas Falcon wrote:  
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  	free_netdev(netdev);
  	dev_set_drvdata(&dev->dev, NULL);
+	netdev_info(netdev, "VNIC client device has been successfully removed.\n");  
A step too far, perhaps.

In general this patch looks a little questionable IMHO, this amount of
logging output is not commonly seen in drivers. All the the info
messages are just static text, not even carrying any extra information.
In an era of ftrace, and bpftrace, do we really need this?  
Agreed, this is too much.  This is debugging, and thus suitable for tracing
facilities, at best.  
Thanks for your feedback. I see now that I was overly aggressive with this
patch to be sure, but it would help with narrowing down problems at a first
glance, should they arise. The driver in its current state logs very little
of what is it doing without the use of additional debugging or tracing
facilities. Would it be worth it to pursue a less aggressive version or
would that be dead on arrival? What are acceptable driver operations to log
at this level?  
Sadly it's much more of an art than hard science. Most networking
drivers will print identifying information when they probe the device
and then only about major config changes or when link comes up or goes
down. And obviously when anything unexpected, like an error happens,
that's key.

You seem to be adding start / end information for each driver init /
deinit stage. I'd say try to focus on the actual errors you're trying
to catch.
Also would it be advisable to add the messages as pr_dbg to be enabled on demand?
I personally have had a pretty poor experience with pr_debug() because
CONFIG_DYNAMIC_DEBUG is not always enabled. Since you're just printing
static text there shouldn't be much difference between pr_debug and
ftrace and/or bpftrace, honestly.

Again, slightly hard to advise not knowing what you're trying to catch.
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