Re: [v3,11/41] mips: reuse asm-generic/barrier.h
From: Paul E. McKenney <hidden>
Date: 2016-01-26 06:12:20
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On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 06:02:34PM +0000, Will Deacon wrote:
Hi Paul, On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 09:39:12AM -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:quoted
On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 09:55:54AM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:quoted
On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 01:29:13PM -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:quoted
So smp_mb() provides transitivity, as do pairs of smp_store_release() and smp_read_acquire(),But they provide different grades of transitivity, which is where all the confusion lays. smp_mb() is strongly/globally transitive, all CPUs will agree on the order. Whereas the RCpc release+acquire is weakly so, only the two cpus involved in the handover will agree on the order.Good point! Using grace periods in place of smp_mb() also provides strong/global transitivity, but also insanely high latencies. ;-) The patch below updates Documentation/memory-barriers.txt to define local vs. global transitivity. The corresponding ppcmem litmus test is included below as well. Should we start putting litmus tests for the various examples somewhere, perhaps in a litmus-tests directory within each participating architecture? I have a pile of powerpc-related litmus tests on my laptop, but they probably aren't doing all that much good there.I too would like to have the litmus tests in the kernel so that we can refer to them from memory-barriers.txt. Ideally they wouldn't be targetted to a particular arch, however.
Agreed. Working on it...
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PPC local-transitive "" { 0:r1=1; 0:r2=u; 0:r3=v; 0:r4=x; 0:r5=y; 0:r6=z; 1:r1=1; 1:r2=u; 1:r3=v; 1:r4=x; 1:r5=y; 1:r6=z; 2:r1=1; 2:r2=u; 2:r3=v; 2:r4=x; 2:r5=y; 2:r6=z; 3:r1=1; 3:r2=u; 3:r3=v; 3:r4=x; 3:r5=y; 3:r6=z; } P0 | P1 | P2 | P3 ; lwz r9,0(r4) | lwz r9,0(r5) | lwz r9,0(r6) | stw r1,0(r3) ; lwsync | lwsync | lwsync | sync ; stw r1,0(r2) | lwz r8,0(r3) | stw r1,0(r7) | lwz r9,0(r2) ; lwsync | lwz r7,0(r2) | | ; stw r1,0(r5) | lwsync | | ; | stw r1,0(r6) | | ; exists (* (0:r9=0 /\ 1:r9=1 /\ 2:r9=1 /\ 1:r8=0 /\ 3:r9=0) *) (* (0:r9=1 /\ 1:r9=1 /\ 2:r9=1) *) (* (0:r9=0 /\ 1:r9=1 /\ 2:r9=1 /\ 1:r7=0) *) (0:r9=0 /\ 1:r9=1 /\ 2:r9=1 /\ 1:r7=0)i.e. we should rewrite this using READ_ONCE/WRITE_ONCE and smp_mb() etc.
Yep!
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------------------------------------------------------------------------ commit 2cb4e83a1b5c89c8e39b8a64bd89269d05913e41 Author: Paul E. McKenney [off-list ref] Date: Fri Jan 15 09:30:42 2016 -0800 documentation: Distinguish between local and global transitivity The introduction of smp_load_acquire() and smp_store_release() had the side effect of introducing a weaker notion of transitivity: The transitivity of full smp_mb() barriers is global, but that of smp_store_release()/smp_load_acquire() chains is local. This commit therefore introduces the notion of local transitivity and gives an example. Reported-by: Peter Zijlstra [off-list ref] Reported-by: Will Deacon [off-list ref] Signed-off-by: Paul E. McKenney [off-list ref]diff --git a/Documentation/memory-barriers.txt b/Documentation/memory-barriers.txt index c66ba46d8079..d8109ed99342 100644 --- a/Documentation/memory-barriers.txt +++ b/Documentation/memory-barriers.txt@@ -1318,8 +1318,82 @@ or a level of cache, CPU 2 might have early access to CPU 1's writes. General barriers are therefore required to ensure that all CPUs agree on the combined order of CPU 1's and CPU 2's accesses. -To reiterate, if your code requires transitivity, use general barriers -throughout. +General barriers provide "global transitivity", so that all CPUs will +agree on the order of operations. In contrast, a chain of release-acquire +pairs provides only "local transitivity", so that only those CPUs on +the chain are guaranteed to agree on the combined order of the accesses.Thanks for having a go at this. I tried defining something axiomatically, but got stuck pretty quickly. In my scheme, I used "data-directed transitivity" instead of "local transitivity", since the latter seems to be a bit of a misnomer.
I figured that "local" meant local to the CPUs participating in the release-acquire chain. As opposed to smp_mb() chains where the ordering is "global" as in visible to all CPUs, whether on the chain or not. Does that help?
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+For example, switching to C code in deference to Herman Hollerith: + + int u, v, x, y, z; + + void cpu0(void) + { + r0 = smp_load_acquire(&x); + WRITE_ONCE(u, 1); + smp_store_release(&y, 1); + } + + void cpu1(void) + { + r1 = smp_load_acquire(&y); + r4 = READ_ONCE(v); + r5 = READ_ONCE(u); + smp_store_release(&z, 1); + } + + void cpu2(void) + { + r2 = smp_load_acquire(&z); + smp_store_release(&x, 1); + } + + void cpu3(void) + { + WRITE_ONCE(v, 1); + smp_mb(); + r3 = READ_ONCE(u); + } + +Because cpu0(), cpu1(), and cpu2() participate in a local transitive +chain of smp_store_release()/smp_load_acquire() pairs, the following +outcome is prohibited: + + r0 == 1 && r1 == 1 && r2 == 1 + +Furthermore, because of the release-acquire relationship between cpu0() +and cpu1(), cpu1() must see cpu0()'s writes, so that the following +outcome is prohibited: + + r1 == 1 && r5 == 0 + +However, the transitivity of release-acquire is local to the participating +CPUs and does not apply to cpu3(). Therefore, the following outcome +is possible: + + r0 == 0 && r1 == 1 && r2 == 1 && r3 == 0 && r4 == 0I think you should be completely explicit and include r5 == 1 here, too.
Good point -- I added this as an additional outcome: r0 == 0 && r1 == 1 && r2 == 1 && r3 == 0 && r4 == 0 && r5 == 1
Also -- where would you add the smp_mb__after_release_acquire to fix (i.e. forbid) this? Immediately after cpu1()'s read of y?
That sounds plausible, but we would first have to agree on exactly what smp_mb__after_release_acquire() did. ;-)
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+Although cpu0(), cpu1(), and cpu2() will see their respective reads and +writes in order, CPUs not involved in the release-acquire chain might +well disagree on the order. This disagreement stems from the fact that +the weak memory-barrier instructions used to implement smp_load_acquire() +and smp_store_release() are not required to order prior stores against +subsequent loads in all cases. This means that cpu3() can see cpu0()'s +store to u as happening -after- cpu1()'s load from v, even though +both cpu0() and cpu1() agree that these two operations occurred in the +intended order. + +However, please keep in mind that smp_load_acquire() is not magic. +In particular, it simply reads from its argument with ordering. It does +-not- ensure that any particular value will be read. Therefore, the +following outcome is possible: + + r0 == 0 && r1 == 0 && r2 == 0 && r5 == 0 + +Note that this outcome can happen even on a mythical sequentially +consistent system where nothing is ever reordered.I'm not sure this last bit is strictly necessary. If somebody thinks that acquire/release involve some sort of implicit synchronisation, I think they may have bigger problems with memory-barriers.txt.
Agreed. But unless I add text like this occasionally, such people could easily read through much of memory-barriers.txt and think that they did in fact understand it. So I have to occasionally trip an assertion in their brain. Or try to... :-/ Thanx, Paul