Re: [PATCH v2] barriers: introduce smp_mb__release_acquire and update documentation
From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Date: 2015-10-21 08:24:47
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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Date: 2015-10-21 08:24:47
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On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 04:34:51PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
There is also the question of whether the barrier forces ordering of unrelated stores, everything initially zero and all accesses READ_ONCE() or WRITE_ONCE(): P0 P1 P2 P3 X = 1; Y = 1; r1 = X; r3 = Y; some_barrier(); some_barrier(); r2 = Y; r4 = X; P2's and P3's ordering could be globally visible without requiring P0's and P1's independent stores to be ordered, for example, if you used smp_rmb() for some_barrier(). In contrast, if we used smp_mb() for barrier, everyone would agree on the order of P0's and P0's stores.
Oh!?
There are actually a fair number of different combinations of aspects of memory ordering. We will need to choose wisely. ;-) My hope is that the store-ordering gets folded into the globally visible transitive level. Especially given that I have not (yet) seen any algorithms used in production that relied on the ordering of independent stores.
I would hope not, that's quite insane.