Thread (61 messages) 61 messages, 10 authors, 2020-08-14

Re: [dm-devel] [RFC PATCH v5 00/11] Integrity Policy Enforcement LSM (IPE)

From: Pavel Machek <hidden>
Date: 2020-08-11 19:30:25
Also in: dm-devel, linux-block, linux-fsdevel, linux-integrity, lkml

Hi!
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(eg, a specification) will be critical for remote filesystems.

If any of this is to be supported by a remote filesystem, then we
need an unencumbered description of the new metadata format
rather than code. GPL-encumbered formats cannot be contributed to
the NFS standard, and are probably difficult for other
filesystems that are not Linux-native, like SMB, as well.
I don't understand what you mean by GPL encumbered formats.  The
GPL is a code licence not a data or document licence.
IETF contributions occur under a BSD-style license incompatible
with the GPL.

https://trustee.ietf.org/trust-legal-provisions.html

Non-Linux implementers (of OEM storage devices) rely on such
standards processes to indemnify them against licensing claims.
Well, that simply means we won't be contributing the Linux
implementation, right? However, IETF doesn't require BSD for all
implementations, so that's OK.
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Today, there is no specification for existing IMA metadata formats,
there is only code. My lawyer tells me that because the code that
implements these formats is under GPL, the formats themselves cannot
be contributed to, say, the IETF without express permission from the
authors of that code. There are a lot of authors of the Linux IMA
code, so this is proving to be an impediment to contribution. That
blocks the ability to provide a fully-specified NFS protocol
extension to support IMA metadata formats.
Well, let me put the counterpoint: I can write a book about how
linux
You should probably talk to your lawyer.
device drivers work (which includes describing the data formats), for
instance, without having to get permission from all the authors ... or
is your lawyer taking the view we should be suing Jonathan Corbet,
Alessandro Rubini, and Greg Kroah-Hartman for licence infringement?  In
fact do they think we now have a huge class action possibility against
O'Reilly  and a host of other publishers ...
Because yes, you can reverse engineer for compatibility reasons --
doing clean room re-implementation (BIOS binary -> BIOS documentation
-> BIOS sources under different license), but that was only tested in
the US, is expensive, and I understand people might be uncomfortable
doing that.

Best regards,
									Pavel

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