Thread (85 messages) 85 messages, 22 authors, 2005-03-01

Re: No swap can be dangerous (was Re: swap on RAID (was Re: swp - Re: ext3 journal on software raid))

From: Jesper Juhl <hidden>
Date: 2005-01-06 22:23:52
Also in: lkml

On Thu, 6 Jan 2005, Andrew Walrond wrote:
On Thursday 06 January 2005 17:46, Mike Hardy wrote:
quoted
You are correct that I was getting at the zero swap argument - and I
agree that it is vastly different from simply not expecting it. It is
important to know that there is no inherent need for swap in the kernel
though - it is simply used as more "memory" (albeit slower, and with
some optimizations to work better with real memory) and if you don't
need it, you don't need it.
If I recollect a recent thread on LKML correctly, your 'no inherent need for 
swap' might be wrong.

I think the gist was this: the kernel can sometimes needs to move bits of 
memory in order to free up dma-able ram, or lowmem. If I recall correctly, 
the kernel can only do this move via swap, even if there is stacks of free 
(non-dmaable or highmem) memory.

I distinctly remember the moral of the thread being "Always mount some swap, 
if you can"

This might have changed though, or I might have got it completely wrong. - 
I've cc'ed LKML incase somebody more knowledgeable can comment...
http://kerneltrap.org/node/view/3202


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Jesper Juhl

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