parts -- Re: ext3 journal on software raid (was Re: PROBLEM: Kernel 2.6.10 crashing repeatedly and hard)

On Wed, 5 Jan 2005, Brad Campbell wrote:

Ok, perhaps bad example. Pick any service that may get swapped out. Hell.. any bad block in any swap 
space that develops while that block is in use is going to cause a problem.

yup ... if you have an unstable system .. swapping things in and out of
memory and disks will cause you problems 
 

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swap ...  swap partitions is by default checked for bad blocks during
formatting as swap ...
	- it is highly unlikely that you'd get a bad sector in swap space

Yeah? I have 3 hard disks sitting on my desk that say you are wrong..

that was my whole initial point a few days ago 

-- get better hardware 

-- get your hardware from another source

-- i do NOT have hardware problems ...
	- i do NOT buy parts from mthe cheapest place
	- i do NOT buy parts from people that i had bad parts

	- i do get an occasional bad part, like the ibm deathstars are
	infamous
 
	- i do get an occasional 1% infant mortality rate ...
	which is normal

	- once a server has been up for say 30-60 days ... it stays
	up for years ....

- given the same identical hard disks from different vendors/stores,
  you will get different failure rates
	- i use maxtor/quantum, ibm, western digital, seagates, fujitsu

	( no one is better than the other disks, other than
	( the stupid ibm deathstar problem

	- how you install it
	- how you cool it makes all the difference in the world

- think about it ...

	== we all use the same motherboards
	== we all use the same disks
	== we all use the same memory
	== we all use the same linux

	== whats different ??

	( where you bought yours from and more importantly, 
	( how you cool things down 

	- i do NOT have problems you guyz are having ....
	and i've personally use thousnds of disks

=== get better hardware ..  or more to the point ... buy from a 
    computer parts only tier-1 vendor ... not from the millions of me-too
    online "we are the cheapest mom-n-pop we sell camera's and
    clothes too webstores"

I have a 250GB drive I just swapped out that was "growing" bad sectors at the rate of 3 per day that 
did a clean badblocks 5 months ago when it was installed.

you're buying bad hardware from bad vendors

c ya
alvin