Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 9:41 AM Geert Uytterhoeven [off-list ref] wrote:

Hi Jani,

On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 9:38 AM Jani Nikula [off-list ref] wrote:

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On Mon, 17 Jan 2022, Helge Deller [off-list ref] wrote:

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On 1/17/22 22:40, Jani Nikula wrote:

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On Mon, 17 Jan 2022, Thomas Zimmermann [off-list ref] wrote:

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Seems like few people read linux-fbdev these days.

How much traffic is there to linux-fbdev that is *not* Cc'd to dri-devel
also?

Doesn't seem like much traffic - which IMHO is OK for such a tree with
mostly just maintenance patches.

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Do we still need a separate linux-fbdev mailing list at all?

Yes. I want to have it seperate of dri-devel.
Actually I'd prefer to drop dri-devel from the list where patches
for fbdev are sent...

Disagreed. If anything, this thread shows we can't have fbdev and drm in
silos of their own.

Unless DRM drops fbdev support. Isn't that the long-term plan anyway?

No. There's way too much old stuff still using the fbdev interface to
do that. We've even done things like standardize the vblank wait
ioctl, because people need that.

There's some effort to make fbdev drivers like efifb obsolete, and
there's been discussions to have a drm-native fbcon. But none of these
are going to make fbdev on top of drm obsolete and something we can
remove. Pretty sure at least not this decade.
-Daniel

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

                        Geert

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