On Tue, 2004-05-11 at 02:14, James Simmons wrote:

quoted

You are mixing things. Mode setting has nothing to do with rendering. OpenGL
is a rendering client. It produces commands sent to the low level kernel
driver and provides a 3D API, but it's not the only one. In this regard,
fbcon is a client too and XFree 2D accel is another one.

But we are rendering to draw fonts, clearing a area of the screen,copyarea.
If we are to have a universal solution it needs to OpenGL. Either that or 
mode switching stays in the kernel.  

Drawing fonts have _NOTING_ to do with mode switching ! Don't tell me
that you can't make the difference between fbdev and fbcon now ;)

Speaking of bloat in the kernel. When will the crypto and TCP/IP stack be 
moved to userspace. The networking code alone is over 17 megs in size. 
Bloat bloat bloat. 

That has nothing to do with it. If you don't agree, come to KS or OLS
and talk to Linus. Your arguments & comparisons are pointless

Ben.




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