Thread (52 messages) 52 messages, 6 authors, 2021-03-12

Re: [PATCH v18 4/9] mm: hugetlb: alloc the vmemmap pages associated with each HugeTLB page

From: Mike Kravetz <hidden>
Date: 2021-03-12 18:18:30
Also in: linux-fsdevel, linux-mm, lkml

On 3/12/21 12:15 AM, Michal Hocko wrote:
On Thu 11-03-21 14:53:08, Mike Kravetz wrote:
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On 3/11/21 9:59 AM, Mike Kravetz wrote:
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On 3/11/21 4:17 AM, Michal Hocko wrote:
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Yeah per cpu preempt counting shouldn't be noticeable but I have to
confess I haven't benchmarked it.
But all this seems moot now http://lkml.kernel.org/r/YEoA08n60+jzsnAl@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net
The proper fix for free_huge_page independent of this series would
involve:

- Make hugetlb_lock and subpool lock irq safe
- Hand off freeing to a workque if the freeing could sleep

Today, the only time we can sleep in free_huge_page is for gigantic
pages allocated via cma.  I 'think' the concern about undesirable
user visible side effects in this case is minimal as freeing/allocating
1G pages is not something that is going to happen at a high frequency.
My thinking could be wrong?

Of more concern, is the introduction of this series.  If this feature
is enabled, then ALL free_huge_page requests must be sent to a workqueue.
Any ideas on how to address this?
Thinking about this more ...

A call to free_huge_page has two distinct outcomes
1) Page is freed back to the original allocator: buddy or cma
2) Page is put on hugetlb free list

We can only possibly sleep in the first case 1.  In addition, freeing a
page back to the original allocator involves these steps:
1) Removing page from hugetlb lists
2) Updating hugetlb counts: nr_hugepages, surplus
3) Updating page fields
4) Allocate vmemmap pages if needed as in this series
5) Calling free routine of original allocator

If hugetlb_lock is irq safe, we can perform the first 3 steps under that
lock without issue.  We would then use a workqueue to perform the last
two steps.  Since we are updating hugetlb user visible data under the
lock, there should be no delays.  Of course, giving those pages back to
the original allocator could still be delayed, and a user may notice
that.  Not sure if that would be acceptable?
Well, having many in-flight huge pages can certainly be visible. Say you
are freeing hundreds of huge pages and your echo n > nr_hugepages will
return just for you to find out that the memory hasn't been freed and
therefore cannot be reused for another use - recently there was somebody
mentioning their usecase to free up huge pages to prevent OOM for
example. I do expect more people doing something like that.

Now, nr_hugepages can be handled by blocking on the same WQ until all
pre-existing items are processed. Maybe we will need to have a more
generic API to achieve the same for in kernel users but let's wait for
those requests.
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I think Muchun had a
similar setup just for vmemmmap allocation in an early version of this
series.

This would also require changes to where accounting is done in
dissolve_free_huge_page and update_and_free_page as mentioned elsewhere.
Normalizing dissolve_free_huge_page is definitely a good idea. It is
really tricky how it sticks out and does half of the job of
update_and_free_page.

That being said, if it is possible to have a fully consistent h state
before handing over to WQ for sleeping operation then we should be all
fine. I am slightly worried about potential tricky situations where the
sleeping operation fails because that would require that page to be
added back to the pool again. As said above we would need some sort of
sync with in-flight operations before returning to the userspace.
Those sysfs interfaces to allocate/free huge pages will need to be
reworked.  One thing that is totally unacceptable with hugetlb_lock
being irq safe, are the calls to cond_resched_lock(&hugetlb_lock).
We will need to significantly reduce lock hold time in these situations.
I have some ideas on how this might work, but it is going to require
some a good deal of code restructuring and will take some time.
-- 
Mike Kravetz
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