Re: [RFC] LKMM: Add volatile_if()
From: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Date: 2021-06-04 15:36:13
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From: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Date: 2021-06-04 15:36:13
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linux-toolchains, lkml
On Fri, Jun 04, 2021 at 05:22:04PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
On Fri, Jun 04, 2021 at 04:13:57PM +0100, Will Deacon wrote:quoted
In fact, maybe it's actually necessary to bundle the load and branch together. I looked at some of the examples of compilers breaking control dependencies from memory-barriers.txt and the "boolean short-circuit" example seems to defeat volatile_if: void foo(int *x, int *y) { volatile_if (READ_ONCE(*x) || 1 > 0) WRITE_ONCE(*y, 42); }Yeah, I'm not too bothered about this. Broken is broken. If this were a compiler feature, the above would be a compile error. But alas, we're not there yet :/ and the best we get to say at this point is: don't do that then.
This is an example of a "syntactic" dependency versus a "semantic" dependency. We shouldn't expect syntactic control dependencies to be preserved. As a rule, people don't write non-semantic dependencies on purpose. But they can occur in some situations, thanks to definitions the programmer isn't aware of. One example would be: (In some obscure header file): #define NUM_FOO 1 (Then in real code): if (READ_ONCE(*x) % NUM_FOO) ... Alan