Re: [PATCH 2/3] lsm: introduce security_lsm_manage_policy hook
From: John Johansen <john.johansen@canonical.com>
Date: 2025-05-08 08:29:06
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On 5/7/25 13:25, Paul Moore wrote:
On Wed, May 7, 2025 at 6:41 AM Tetsuo Handa [off-list ref] wrote:quoted
On 2025/05/06 23:32, Maxime Bélair wrote:quoted
diff --git a/security/lsm_syscalls.c b/security/lsm_syscalls.c index dcaad8818679..b39e6635a7d5 100644 --- a/security/lsm_syscalls.c +++ b/security/lsm_syscalls.c@@ -122,5 +122,10 @@ SYSCALL_DEFINE3(lsm_list_modules, u64 __user *, ids, u32 __user *, size, SYSCALL_DEFINE5(lsm_manage_policy, u32, lsm_id, u32, op, void __user *, buf, u32 __user *, size, u32, flags) { - return 0; + size_t usize; + + if (get_user(usize, size)) + return -EFAULT; + + return security_lsm_manage_policy(lsm_id, op, buf, usize, flags); }syzbot will report user-controlled unbounded huge size memory allocation attempt. ;-) This interface might be fine for AppArmor, but TOMOYO won't use this interface because TOMOYO's policy is line-oriented ASCII text data where the destination is switched via pseudo‑filesystem's filename ...While Tetsuo's comment is limited to TOMOYO, I believe the argument applies to a number of other LSMs as well. The reality is that there is no one policy ideal shared across LSMs and that complicates things like the lsm_manage_policy() proposal. I'm intentionally saying "complicates" and not "prevents" because I don't want to flat out reject something like this, but I think there needs to be a larger discussion among the different LSM groups about what such an API should look like. We may not need to get every LSM to support this new API, but we need to get something that would work for a significant majority and would be general/extensible enough that we would expect it to work with the majority of future LSMs (as much as we can predict the future anyway).
yep, I look at this is just a starting point for discussion. There isn't going to be any discussion without some code, so here is a v1 that supports a single LSM let the bike shedding begin.