Re: [PATCH v6 3/8] mm/memfd: Introduce MFD_INACCESSIBLE flag
From: Chao Peng <hidden>
Date: 2022-06-02 10:11:16
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On Wed, Jun 01, 2022 at 02:11:42PM +0200, Gupta, Pankaj wrote:
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Introduce a new memfd_create() flag indicating the content of the created memfd is inaccessible from userspace through ordinary MMU access (e.g., read/write/mmap). However, the file content can be accessed via a different mechanism (e.g. KVM MMU) indirectly.SEV, TDX, pkvm and software-only VMs seem to have usecases to set up initial guest boot memory with the needed blobs. TDX already supports a KVM IOCTL to transfer contents to private memory using the TDX module but rest of the implementations will need to invent a way to do this.There are some discussions in https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flkml.org%2Flkml%2F2022%2F5%2F9%2F1292&data=05%7C01%7Cpankaj.gupta%40amd.com%7Cb81ef334e2dd44c6143308da43b87d17%7C3dd8961fe4884e608e11a82d994e183d%7C0%7C0%7C637896756895977587%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=oQbM2Hj7GlhJTwnTM%2FPnwsfJlmTL7JR9ULBysAqm6V8%3D&reserved=0 already. I somehow agree with Sean. TDX is using an dedicated ioctl to copy guest boot memory to private fd so the rest can do that similarly. The concern is the performance (extra memcpy) but it's trivial since the initial guest payload is usually optimized in size.quoted
Is there a plan to support a common implementation for either allowing initial write access from userspace to private fd or adding a KVM IOCTL to transfer contents to such a file, as part of this series through future revisions?Indeed, adding pre-boot private memory populating on current design isn't impossible, but there are still some opens, e.g. how to expose private fd to userspace for access, pKVM and CC usages may have different requirements. Before that's well-studied I would tend to not add that and instead use an ioctl to copy. Whether we need a generic ioctl or feature-specific ioctl, I don't have strong opinion here. Current TDX uses a feature-specific ioctl so it's not covered in this series.Common function or ioctl to populate preboot private memory actually makes sense. Sorry, did not follow much of TDX code yet, Is it possible to filter out the current TDX specific ioctl to common function so that it can be used by other technologies?
TDX code is here: https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/kvm/patch/70ed041fd47c1f7571aa259450b3f9244edda48d.1651774250.git.isaku.yamahata@intel.com/ AFAICS It might be possible to filter that out to a common function. But would like to hear from Paolo/Sean for their opinion. Chao
Thanks, Pankaj