Re: [PATCH 00/17] VFS: Filesystem information and notifications [ver #17]
From: Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>
Date: 2020-03-03 16:51:17
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On Tue, 2020-03-03 at 08:44 -0700, Jens Axboe wrote:
On 3/3/20 7:24 AM, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:quoted
On Tue, Mar 03, 2020 at 03:13:26PM +0100, Jann Horn wrote:quoted
On Tue, Mar 3, 2020 at 3:10 PM Greg Kroah-Hartman [off-list ref] wrote:quoted
On Tue, Mar 03, 2020 at 02:43:16PM +0100, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:quoted
On Tue, Mar 03, 2020 at 02:34:42PM +0100, Miklos Szeredi wrote:quoted
On Tue, Mar 3, 2020 at 2:14 PM Greg Kroah-Hartman [off-list ref] wrote:quoted
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Unlimited beers for a 21-line kernel patch? Sign me up! Totally untested, barely compiled patch below.Ok, that didn't even build, let me try this for real now...Some comments on the interface:Ok, hey, let's do this proper :)Alright, how about this patch. Actually tested with some simple sysfs files. If people don't strongly object, I'll add "real" tests to it, hook it up to all arches, write a manpage, and all the fun fluff a new syscall deserves and submit it "for real".Just FYI, io_uring is moving towards the same kind of thing... IIRC you can already use it to batch a bunch of open() calls, then batch a bunch of read() calls on all the new fds and close them at the same time. And I think they're planning to add support for doing open()+read()+close() all in one go, too, except that it's a bit complicated because passing forward the file descriptor in a generic way is a bit complicated.It is complicated, I wouldn't recommend using io_ring for reading a bunch of procfs or sysfs files, that feels like a ton of overkill with too much setup/teardown to make it worth while. But maybe not, will have to watch and see how it goes.It really isn't, and I too thinks it makes more sense than having a system call just for the explicit purpose of open/read/close. As Jann said, you can't currently do a linked sequence of open/read/close, because the fd passing between them isn't done. But that will come in the future. If the use case is "a bunch of files", then you could trivially do "open bunch", "read bunch", "close bunch" in three separate steps. Curious what the use case is for this that warrants a special system call?
Agreed. I'd really rather see something more general-purpose than the proposed readfile(). At least with NFS and SMB, you can compound together fairly arbitrary sorts of operations, and it'd be nice to be able to pattern calls into the kernel for those sorts of uses. So, NFSv4 has the concept of a current_stateid that is maintained by the server. So basically you can do all this (e.g.) in a single compound: open <some filehandle get a stateid> write <using that stateid> close <same stateid> It'd be nice to be able to do something similar with io_uring. Make it so that when you do an open, you set the "current fd" inside the kernel's context, and then be able to issue io_uring requests that specify a magic "fd" value that use it. That would be a really useful pattern. -- Jeff Layton [off-list ref]