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Re: [PATCH net-next] modules: allow modprobe load regular elf binaries

From: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Date: 2018-03-09 01:05:01
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On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 12:57 AM, Alexei Starovoitov [off-list ref] wrote:
On 3/8/18 4:24 PM, Kees Cook wrote:
quoted
As Andy asked earlier, why not DYN too to catch PIE executables? Seems
like forcing the userspace helper to be non-PIE would defeat some of
the userspace defenses in use in most distros.

because we don't add features without concrete users.
I disagree here.  If you're going to add a magic trick that triggers
an execve(), then I think you should either support *both* standard,
widely-used types of ELF programs or you should give a compelling use
case that works for ET_EXEC but not for ET_DYN.  Keep in mind that
many distros have a very strong preference for ET_DYN.

Or you could argue that ET_DYN requires tooling changes, but I think
it's awkward to ask the tooling to change in advance of the kernel
being willing to actually invoke the thing.  I'm not actually
convinced that any tooling changes would be needed, though.
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