Thread (58 messages) 58 messages, 5 authors, 2019-09-16

Re: [PATCH] [RFC] dmaengine: add fifo_size member

From: Vinod Koul <vkoul@kernel.org>
Date: 2019-06-13 16:48:48
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On 06-06-19, 09:19, Sameer Pujar wrote:
quoted
you are really going other way around about the whole picture. FWIW that
is how *other* folks do audio with dmaengine!
I discussed this internally with HW folks and below is the reason why DMA
needs
to know FIFO size.

- FIFOs reside in peripheral device(ADMAIF), which is the ADMA interface to
the audio sub-system.
- ADMAIF has multiple channels and share FIFO buffer for individual
operations. There is a provision
  to allocate specific fifo size for each individual ADMAIF channel from the
shared buffer.
- Tegra Audio DMA(ADMA) architecture is different from the usual DMA
engines, which you described earlier.
- The flow control logic is placed inside ADMA. Slave peripheral
device(ADMAIF) signals ADMA whenever a
  read or write happens on the FIFO(per WORD basis). Please note that the
signaling is per channel. There is
  no other signaling present from ADMAIF to ADMA.
- ADMA keeps a counter related to above signaling. Whenever a sufficient
when is signal triggered? When there is space available or some
threshold of space is reached?
space is available, it initiates a transfer.
  But the question is, how does it know when to transfer. This is the
reason, why ADMA has to be aware of FIFO
  depth of ADMAIF channel. Depending on the counters and FIFO depth, it
knows exactly when a free space is available
  in the context of a specific channel. On ADMA, FIFO_SIZE is just a value
which should match to actual FIFO_DEPTH/SIZE
  of ADMAIF channel.
That doesn't sound too different from typical dmaengine. To give an
example of a platform (and general DMAengine principles as well) I worked
on the FIFO was 16 word deep. DMA didn't knew!

Peripheral driver would signal to DMA when a threshold is reached and
DMA would send a burst controlled by src/dst_burst_size. For example if
you have a FIFO with 16 words depth, typical burst_size would be 8 words
and peripheral will configure signalling for FIFO having 8 words, so
signal from peripheral will make dma transfer 8 words.

Here the peripheral driver FIFO is important, but the driver
configures it and sets burst_size accordingly.

So can you explain me what is the difference here that the peripheral
cannot configure and use burst size with passing fifo depth?
- Now consider two cases based on above logic,
  * Case 1: when DMA_FIFO_SIZE > SLAVE_FIFO_SIZE
    In this case, ADMA thinks that there is enough space available for
transfer, when actually the FIFO data
    on slave is not consumed yet. It would result in OVERRUN.
  * Case 2: when DMA_FIFO_SIZE < SLAVE_FIFO_SIZE
    This is case where ADMA won’t transfer, even though sufficient space is
available, resulting in UNDERRUN.
- The guideline is to program, DMA_FIFO_SIZE(on ADMA side) =
SLAVE_FIFO_SIZE(on ADMAIF side) and hence we need a
  way to communicate fifo size info to ADMA.
-- 
~Vinod
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