Re: [PATCH 0/2] virtio: decouple protected guest RAM form VIRTIO_F_IOMMU_PLATFORM
From: David Gibson <hidden>
Date: 2020-02-24 06:44:02
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On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 03:56:02PM +0100, Halil Pasic wrote:
On Fri, 21 Feb 2020 14:22:26 +0800 Jason Wang [off-list ref] wrote:quoted
On 2020/2/21 上午12:06, Halil Pasic wrote:quoted
Currently if one intends to run a memory protection enabled VM with virtio devices and linux as the guest OS, one needs to specify the VIRTIO_F_IOMMU_PLATFORM flag for each virtio device to make the guest linux use the DMA API, which in turn handles the memory encryption/protection stuff if the guest decides to turn itself into a protected one. This however makes no sense due to multiple reasons: * The device is not changed by the fact that the guest RAM is protected. The so called IOMMU bypass quirk is not affected. * This usage is not congruent with standardised semantics of VIRTIO_F_IOMMU_PLATFORM. Guest memory protected is an orthogonal reason for using DMA API in virtio (orthogonal with respect to what is expressed by VIRTIO_F_IOMMU_PLATFORM). This series aims to decouple 'have to use DMA API because my (guest) RAM is protected' and 'have to use DMA API because the device told me VIRTIO_F_IOMMU_PLATFORM'. Please find more detailed explanations about the conceptual aspects in the individual patches. There is however also a very practical problem that is addressed by this series. For vhost-net the feature VIRTIO_F_IOMMU_PLATFORM has the following side effect The vhost code assumes it the addresses on the virtio descriptor ring are not guest physical addresses but iova's, and insists on doing a translation of these regardless of what transport is used (e.g. whether we emulate a PCI or a CCW device). (For details see commit 6b1e6cc7855b "vhost: new device IOTLB API".) On s390 this results in severe performance degradation (c.a. factor 10).Do you see a consistent degradation on the performance, or it only happen when for during the beginning of the test?AFAIK the degradation is consistent.quoted
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BTW with ccw I/O there is (architecturally) no IOMMU, so the whole address translation makes no sense in the context of virtio-ccw.I suspect we can do optimization in qemu side. E.g send memtable entry via IOTLB API when vIOMMU is not enabled. If this makes sense, I can draft patch to see if there's any difference.Frankly I would prefer to avoid IOVAs on the descriptor ring (and the then necessary translation) for virtio-ccw altogether. But Michael voiced his opinion that we should mandate F_IOMMU_PLATFORM for devices that could be used with guests running in protected mode. I don't share his opinion, but that's an ongoing discussion.
I'm a bit confused by this. For the ccw specific case, F_ACCESS_PLATFORM shouldn't have any impact: for you, IOVA == GPA so everything is easy.
Should we end up having to do translation from IOVA in vhost, we are very interested in that translation being fast and efficient. In that sense we would be very happy to test any optimization that aim into that direction. Thank you very much for your input! Regards, Halilquoted
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Halil Pasic (2): mm: move force_dma_unencrypted() to mem_encrypt.h virtio: let virtio use DMA API when guest RAM is protected drivers/virtio/virtio_ring.c | 3 +++ include/linux/dma-direct.h | 9 --------- include/linux/mem_encrypt.h | 10 ++++++++++ 3 files changed, 13 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-) base-commit: ca7e1fd1026c5af6a533b4b5447e1d2f153e28f2
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