Thread (192 messages) 192 messages, 49 authors, 2013-07-23

Re: [ATTEND] How to act on LKML (was: [ 00/19] 3.10.1-stable review)

From: Sarah Sharp <hidden>
Date: 2013-07-16 21:12:38
Also in: lkml

On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 11:14:51AM +0200, Olivier Galibert wrote:
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 9:32 AM, David Lang [off-list ref] wrote:
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On Mon, 15 Jul 2013, Sarah Sharp wrote:
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The people who want to work together in a civil manner should get
together and create a "Kernel maintainer's code of conduct" that
outlines what they expect from fellow kernel developers.  The people who
want to continue acting "unprofessionally" should document what
behaviors set off their cursing streaks, so that others can avoid that
behavior.  Somewhere in the middle is the community behavior all
developers can thrive in.

By defining your viewpoint as being "professional" and the other viewpoint
as being "unprofessional" you have already started using very loaded terms
and greatly reduces the probability of actually getting the other group to
agree and participate.
Especially since you can very easily translate these terms into
"American" and "non-American".

The stereotypical american professionalism attitude is to be polite at
the word choice level the best to hide a profund disrespect under
them.  There's no meaning taken into account, it's just keyword
spotting.  "Your code is crap" is considered unprofessional, while
"Let's leverage my fifth grade nephew's capabilities to assist you in
fixing the code" is perfectly professional, somehow.  That's more
often than not an unacceptable attitude in europe.
I *hate* both direct personal insults and indirect personal insults.
Neither should be acceptable in our community.

As I stated in an email to Rusty, what I'm objecting to here is not
kernel developers criticizing code.  I'm objecting to personal attacks,
and developers directing personal verbal abuse towards each other.  This
include all developers, not just Linus.

Sarah Sharp
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