Re: Some clarifications on the upstreaming process

On Wed, Sep 09, 2026 at 11:57:53AM -0700, Jakub Kicinski wrote:

On Wed, 9 Sep 2026 12:44:08 +0200 Steffen Klassert wrote:

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On Wed, Sep 09, 2026 at 12:34:42PM +0200, Paolo Abeni wrote:

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On 9/9/26 12:23 PM, Steffen Klassert wrote:  

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Are you willing to pull this as is, or should I resend the pull
request with the incremental fix? The latter leads to problem
4.1 (patch does not apply to net).  

Due to time schedule I can't look into the series detail before tomorrow
my time. Since Jakub forwarded the AI report and left the series in PW I
assume he is looking for your replies to the AI comments - which is
pretty much would I'll do.  

It was a general question, not directly related to this pull request.

There were several issues reported, it will take a bit of time
to review the AI comments.

Thanks, I'll toss this version form PW, please let us know if it's good
(enough) and we should pull as is after all.

I'll sort it out for that pull request, but I can't do that for every PR.

In general, I'd of course like to allow more use of the meta sponsored
models but my time is limited, and to some extent so are the funds (to
some extent because I suspect the volume is negligible compared to
netdev).

I'd guess it is negligible. It is one review per subsystem patch,
as it is now. It is just before the patch is applied. So I think
the actual cost is to set the things up.

At the same time I worry that *shikos are making it easier for our
maintainers to ignore the fundamental changes which AI brings to SW
engineering. IOW I'd like to encourage more local use and
experimentation.

We do local use and experimentation and yes, we could probably
do more. But that's a process and I have only limited influence
on that.

But anyway, this does not solve the root problem that patches
get their final review after they are applied to git (as
mentioned in the other mail in this thread).

Sorry for not answering your actual questions. TBH I don't think we
have any real answers for most of them.

Unfortunately we have to find an answer for these questions.
My time is limited as well, that's why I came up with that.
So I hope we find a solution before I have to raise the
white flag ;)