Thread (96 messages) 96 messages, 16 authors, 2025-10-09

Re: [PATCH RFC 10/35] mm/hugetlb: cleanup hugetlb_folio_init_tail_vmemmap()

From: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
Date: 2025-08-25 16:17:20
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Subsystem: memblock and memory management initialization, memory management, the rest · Maintainers: Mike Rapoport, Andrew Morton, Linus Torvalds

On Mon, Aug 25, 2025 at 05:42:33PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
On 25.08.25 16:59, Mike Rapoport wrote:
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On Mon, Aug 25, 2025 at 04:38:03PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
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On 25.08.25 16:32, Mike Rapoport wrote:
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On Mon, Aug 25, 2025 at 02:48:58PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
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On 23.08.25 10:59, Mike Rapoport wrote:
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On Fri, Aug 22, 2025 at 08:24:31AM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
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On 22.08.25 06:09, Mika Penttilä wrote:
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On 8/21/25 23:06, David Hildenbrand wrote:
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All pages were already initialized and set to PageReserved() with a
refcount of 1 by MM init code.
Just to be sure, how is this working with MEMBLOCK_RSRV_NOINIT, where MM is supposed not to
initialize struct pages?
Excellent point, I did not know about that one.

Spotting that we don't do the same for the head page made me assume that
it's just a misuse of __init_single_page().

But the nasty thing is that we use memblock_reserved_mark_noinit() to only
mark the tail pages ...
And even nastier thing is that when CONFIG_DEFERRED_STRUCT_PAGE_INIT is
disabled struct pages are initialized regardless of
memblock_reserved_mark_noinit().

I think this patch should go in before your updates:
Shouldn't we fix this in memblock code?

Hacking around that in the memblock_reserved_mark_noinit() user sound wrong
-- and nothing in the doc of memblock_reserved_mark_noinit() spells that
behavior out.
We can surely update the docs, but unfortunately I don't see how to avoid
hacking around it in hugetlb.
Since it's used to optimise HVO even further to the point hugetlb open
codes memmap initialization, I think it's fair that it should deal with all
possible configurations.
Remind me, why can't we support memblock_reserved_mark_noinit() when
CONFIG_DEFERRED_STRUCT_PAGE_INIT is disabled?
When CONFIG_DEFERRED_STRUCT_PAGE_INIT is disabled we initialize the entire
memmap early (setup_arch()->free_area_init()), and we may have a bunch of
memblock_reserved_mark_noinit() afterwards
Oh, you mean that we get effective memblock modifications after already
initializing the memmap.

That sounds ... interesting :)
It's memmap, not the free lists. Without deferred init, memblock is active
for a while after memmap initialized and before the memory goes to the free
lists.
 
So yeah, we have to document this for memblock_reserved_mark_noinit().

Is it also a problem for kexec_handover?
With KHO it's also interesting, but it does not support deferred struct
page init for now :)
 
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We should do something like:
diff --git a/mm/memblock.c b/mm/memblock.c
index 154f1d73b61f2..ed4c563d72c32 100644
--- a/mm/memblock.c
+++ b/mm/memblock.c
@@ -1091,13 +1091,16 @@ int __init_memblock memblock_clear_nomap(phys_addr_t base, phys_addr_t size)
 /**
  * memblock_reserved_mark_noinit - Mark a reserved memory region with flag
- * MEMBLOCK_RSRV_NOINIT which results in the struct pages not being initialized
- * for this region.
+ * MEMBLOCK_RSRV_NOINIT which allows for the "struct pages" corresponding
+ * to this region not getting initialized, because the caller will take
+ * care of it.
  * @base: the base phys addr of the region
  * @size: the size of the region
  *
- * struct pages will not be initialized for reserved memory regions marked with
- * %MEMBLOCK_RSRV_NOINIT.
+ * "struct pages" will not be initialized for reserved memory regions marked
+ * with %MEMBLOCK_RSRV_NOINIT if this function is called before initialization
+ * code runs. Without CONFIG_DEFERRED_STRUCT_PAGE_INIT, it is more likely
+ * that this function is not effective.
  *
  * Return: 0 on success, -errno on failure.
  */
I have a different version :)
 
diff --git a/include/linux/memblock.h b/include/linux/memblock.h
index b96746376e17..d20d091c6343 100644
--- a/include/linux/memblock.h
+++ b/include/linux/memblock.h
@@ -40,8 +40,9 @@ extern unsigned long long max_possible_pfn;
  * via a driver, and never indicated in the firmware-provided memory map as
  * system RAM. This corresponds to IORESOURCE_SYSRAM_DRIVER_MANAGED in the
  * kernel resource tree.
- * @MEMBLOCK_RSRV_NOINIT: memory region for which struct pages are
- * not initialized (only for reserved regions).
+ * @MEMBLOCK_RSRV_NOINIT: memory region for which struct pages don't have
+ * PG_Reserved set and are completely not initialized when
+ * %CONFIG_DEFERRED_STRUCT_PAGE_INIT is enabled (only for reserved regions).
  * @MEMBLOCK_RSRV_KERN: memory region that is reserved for kernel use,
  * either explictitly with memblock_reserve_kern() or via memblock
  * allocation APIs. All memblock allocations set this flag.
diff --git a/mm/memblock.c b/mm/memblock.c
index 154f1d73b61f..02de5ffb085b 100644
--- a/mm/memblock.c
+++ b/mm/memblock.c
@@ -1091,13 +1091,15 @@ int __init_memblock memblock_clear_nomap(phys_addr_t base, phys_addr_t size)
 
 /**
  * memblock_reserved_mark_noinit - Mark a reserved memory region with flag
- * MEMBLOCK_RSRV_NOINIT which results in the struct pages not being initialized
- * for this region.
+ * MEMBLOCK_RSRV_NOINIT
+ *
  * @base: the base phys addr of the region
  * @size: the size of the region
  *
- * struct pages will not be initialized for reserved memory regions marked with
- * %MEMBLOCK_RSRV_NOINIT.
+ * The struct pages for the reserved regions marked %MEMBLOCK_RSRV_NOINIT will
+ * not have %PG_Reserved flag set.
+ * When %CONFIG_DEFERRED_STRUCT_PAGE_INIT is enabled, setting this flags also
+ * completly bypasses the initialization of struct pages for this region.
  *
  * Return: 0 on success, -errno on failure.
  */
 
Optimizing the hugetlb code could be done, but I am not sure how high
the priority is (nobody complained so far about the double init).

-- 
Cheers

David / dhildenb
-- 
Sincerely yours,
Mike.
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