Thread (42 messages) 42 messages, 6 authors, 2022-06-17

Re: [PATCH v4 0/4] Implement vdpasim stop operation

From: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
Date: 2022-06-02 02:03:12
Also in: kvm, lkml, virtualization

On Thu, Jun 2, 2022 at 3:30 AM Parav Pandit [off-list ref] wrote:

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From: Eugenio Perez Martin <eperezma@redhat.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2022 5:50 AM

On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 10:19 PM Parav Pandit [off-list ref] wrote:
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From: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2022 11:39 PM

On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 6:56 PM Michael S. Tsirkin [off-list ref]
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On Thu, May 26, 2022 at 12:54:32PM +0000, Parav Pandit wrote:
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From: Eugenio Pérez <eperezma@redhat.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2022 8:44 AM
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Implement stop operation for vdpa_sim devices, so vhost-vdpa
will offer

that backend feature and userspace can effectively stop the device.



This is a must before get virtqueue indexes (base) for live
migration,

since the device could modify them after userland gets them.
There are

individual ways to perform that action for some devices

(VHOST_NET_SET_BACKEND, VHOST_VSOCK_SET_RUNNING, ...)
but
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was no

way to perform it for any vhost device (and, in particular, vhost-
vdpa).
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After the return of ioctl with stop != 0, the device MUST
finish any

pending operations like in flight requests. It must also
preserve all

the necessary state (the virtqueue vring base plus the
possible device

specific states) that is required for restoring in the future.
The

device must not change its configuration after that point.



After the return of ioctl with stop == 0, the device can
continue

processing buffers as long as typical conditions are met (vq
is enabled,

DRIVER_OK status bit is enabled, etc).
Just to be clear, we are adding vdpa level new ioctl() that
doesn’t map to
any mechanism in the virtio spec.
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Why can't we use this ioctl() to indicate driver to start/stop
the device
instead of driving it through the driver_ok?
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This is in the context of other discussion we had in the LM series.
If there's something in the spec that does this then let's use that.
Actually, we try to propose a independent feature here:

https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/virtio-dev/202111/msg00020.htm
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This will stop the device for all the operations.
Once the device is stopped, its state cannot be queried further as device
won't respond.
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It has limited use case.
What we need is to stop non admin queue related portion of the device.
Still don't follow this, sorry.
Once a device it stopped its state etc cannot be queried.
This is not what is proposed here.
if you want to stop and still allow certain operations, a better spec definition is needed that says,

stop A, B, C, but allow D, E, F, G.
A = stop CVQs and save its state somewhere
B = stop data VQs and save it state somewhere
C = stop generic config interrupt
Actually, it's the stop of the config space change.
And what more, any guest visible state must not be changed.
D = query state of multiple VQs
E = query device statistics and other elements/objects in future
This is the device state I believe.
F = setup/config/restore certain fields
This is the reverse of D and E, that is setting the state.
G = resume the device
Thanks
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Adding the admin vq to the mix, this would stop a device of a device group,
but not the whole virtqueue group. If the admin VQ is offered by the PF
(since it's not exposed to the guest), it will continue accepting requests as
normal. If it's exposed in the VF, I think the best bet is to shadow it, since
guest and host requests could conflict.

Since this is offered through vdpa, the device backend driver can route it to
whatever method works better for the hardware. For example, to send an
admin vq command to the PF. That's why it's important to keep the feature
as self-contained and orthogonal to others as possible.
I replied in other thread to continue there.
  
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