Re: [RFC 00/12] io_uring zerocopy send
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From: Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>
Date: 2021-12-02 00:33:04
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# discussion / questions I haven't got a grasp on many aspects of the net stack yet, so would appreciate feedback in general and there are a couple of questions thoughts. 1) What are initialisation rules for adding a new field into struct mshdr? E.g. many users (mainly LLD) hand code initialisation not filling all the fields. 2) I don't like too much ubuf_info propagation from udp_sendmsg() into __ip_append_data() (see 3/12). Ideas how to do it better?Agreed that both of these are less than ideal. I can't comment too much on the io_uring aspect of the patch series. But msg_zerocopy is probably used in a small fraction of traffic (even if a high fraction for users who care about its benefits). We have to try to minimize the cost incurred on the general hot path.One thing, I can hide the initial ubuf check in the beginning of __ip_append_data() under a common if (sock_flag(sk, SOCK_ZEROCOPY)) {} But as SOCK_ZEROCOPY is more of a design problem workaround, tbh not sure I like from the API perspective. Thoughts?
Agreed. io_uring does not have the legacy concerns that msg_zerocopy
had to resolve.
It is always possible to hide runtime overhead behind a static_branch,
if nothing else.
Or perhaps do pass the flag and use that:
- if (flags & MSG_ZEROCOPY && length && sock_flag(sk, SOCK_ZEROCOPY)) {
+ if (flags & MSG_ZEROCOPY && length) {
+ if (uarg) {
etc.
I hope I can also shuffle some of the stuff in 5/12 out of the hot path, need to dig a bit deeper.quoted
I was going to suggest using the standard msg_zerocopy ubuf_info alloc/free mechanism. But you explicitly mention seeing omalloc/ofree in the cycle profile. It might still be possible to somehow signal to msg_zerocopy_alloc that this is being called from within an io_uring request, and therefore should use a pre-existing uarg with different uarg->callback. If nothing else, some info can be passed as a cmsg. But perhaps there is a more direct pointer path to follow from struct sk, say? Here my limited knowledge of io_uring forces me to hand wave.One thing I consider important though is to be able to specify a ubuf per request, but not somehow registering it in a socket. It's more flexible from the userspace API perspective. It would also need constant register/unregister, and there are concerns with referencing/cancellations, that's where it came from in the first place.
What if the ubuf pool can be found from the sk, and the index in that pool is passed as a cmsg?