Thread (49 messages) 49 messages, 6 authors, 2020-11-04

Re: [PATCH bpf-next 00/11] libbpf: split BTF support

From: Andrii Nakryiko <hidden>
Date: 2020-10-30 02:33:28
Also in: bpf

On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 5:33 PM Song Liu [off-list ref] wrote:

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On Oct 28, 2020, at 5:58 PM, Andrii Nakryiko [off-list ref] wrote:

This patch set adds support for generating and deduplicating split BTF. This
is an enhancement to the BTF, which allows to designate one BTF as the "base
BTF" (e.g., vmlinux BTF), and one or more other BTFs as "split BTF" (e.g.,
kernel module BTF), which are building upon and extending base BTF with extra
types and strings.

Once loaded, split BTF appears as a single unified BTF superset of base BTF,
with continuous and transparent numbering scheme. This allows all the existing
users of BTF to work correctly and stay agnostic to the base/split BTFs
composition.  The only difference is in how to instantiate split BTF: it
requires base BTF to be alread instantiated and passed to btf__new_xxx_split()
or btf__parse_xxx_split() "constructors" explicitly.

This split approach is necessary if we are to have a reasonably-sized kernel
module BTFs. By deduping each kernel module's BTF individually, resulting
module BTFs contain copies of a lot of kernel types that are already present
in vmlinux BTF. Even those single copies result in a big BTF size bloat. On my
kernel configuration with 700 modules built, non-split BTF approach results in
115MBs of BTFs across all modules. With split BTF deduplication approach,
total size is down to 5.2MBs total, which is on part with vmlinux BTF (at
around 4MBs). This seems reasonable and practical. As to why we'd need kernel
module BTFs, that should be pretty obvious to anyone using BPF at this point,
as it allows all the BTF-powered features to be used with kernel modules:
tp_btf, fentry/fexit/fmod_ret, lsm, bpf_iter, etc.
Some high level questions. Do we plan to use split BTF for in-tree modules
(those built together with the kernel) or out-of-tree modules (those built
separately)? If it is for in-tree modules, is it possible to build split BTF
into vmlinux BTF?
It will be possible to use for both in-tree and out-of-tree. For
in-tree, this will be integrated into the kernel build process. For
out-of-tree, whoever builds their kernel module will need to invoke
pahole -J with an extra flag pointing to the right vmlinux image (I
haven't looked into the exact details of this integration, maybe there
are already scripts in Linux repo that out-of-tree modules have to
use, in such case we can add this integration there).

Merging all in-tree modules' BTFs into vmlinux's BTF defeats the
purpose of the split BTF and will just increase the size of vmlinux
BTF unnecessarily.
Thanks,
Song

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