Thread (50 messages) 50 messages, 7 authors, 2025-03-12

Re: [PATCH net-next 1/3] vsock: add network namespace support

From: Stefano Garzarella <sgarzare@redhat.com>
Date: 2020-01-20 13:58:09
Also in: kvm, linux-hyperv, lkml, virtualization

On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 1:03 PM Michael S. Tsirkin [off-list ref] wrote:
On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 11:17:35AM +0100, Stefano Garzarella wrote:
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On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 10:06:10AM +0100, David Miller wrote:
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From: Stefano Garzarella <sgarzare@redhat.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 18:24:26 +0100
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This patch adds 'netns' module param to enable this new feature
(disabled by default), because it changes vsock's behavior with
network namespaces and could break existing applications.
Sorry, no.

I wonder if you can even design a legitimate, reasonable, use case
where these netns changes could break things.
I forgot to mention the use case.
I tried the RFC with Kata containers and we found that Kata shim-v1
doesn't work (Kata shim-v2 works as is) because there are the following
processes involved:
- kata-runtime (runs in the init_netns) opens /dev/vhost-vsock and
  passes it to qemu
- kata-shim (runs in a container) wants to talk with the guest but the
  vsock device is assigned to the init_netns and kata-shim runs in a
  different netns, so the communication is not allowed
But, as you said, this could be a wrong design, indeed they already
found a fix, but I was not sure if others could have the same issue.

In this case, do you think it is acceptable to make this change in
the vsock's behavior with netns and ask the user to change the design?
David's question is what would be a usecase that's broken
(as opposed to fixed) by enabling this by default.
Yes, I got that. Thanks for clarifying.
I just reported a broken example that can be fixed with a different
design (due to the fact that before this series, vsock devices were
accessible to all netns).
If it does exist, you need a way for userspace to opt-in,
module parameter isn't that.
Okay, but I honestly can't find a case that can't be solved.
So I don't know whether to add an option (ioctl, sysfs ?) or wait for
a real case to come up.

I'll try to see better if there's any particular case where we need
to disable netns in vsock.

Thanks,
Stefano
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