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Re: [PATCH v4 2/2] virtio_net: Extend virtio to use VF datapath when available

From: Alexander Duyck <hidden>
Date: 2018-03-04 00:26:53

On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 1:25 PM, Jiri Pirko [off-list ref] wrote:
Sat, Mar 03, 2018 at 07:04:57PM CET, alexander.duyck@gmail.com wrote:
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On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 3:31 AM, Jiri Pirko [off-list ref] wrote:
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Fri, Mar 02, 2018 at 08:42:47PM CET, mst@redhat.com wrote:
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On Fri, Mar 02, 2018 at 05:20:17PM +0100, Jiri Pirko wrote:
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Yeah, this code essentially calls out the "shareable" code with a
comment at the start and end of the section what defines the
virtio_bypass functionality. It would just be a matter of mostly
cutting and pasting to put it into a separate driver module.
Please put it there and unite the use of it with netvsc.
Surely, adding this to other drivers (e.g. might this be handy for xen
too?) can be left for a separate patchset. Let's get one device merged
first.
Why? Let's do the generic infra alongside with the driver. I see no good
reason to rush into merging driver and only later, if ever, to convert
it to generic solution. On contrary. That would lead into multiple
approaches and different behavious in multiple drivers. That is plain
wrong.
If nothing else it doesn't hurt to do this in one driver in a generic
way, and once it has been proven to address all the needs of that one
driver we can then start moving other drivers to it. The current
solution is quite generic, that was my contribution to this patch set
as I didn't like how invasive it was being to virtio and thought it
would be best to keep this as minimally invasive as possible.

My preference would be to give this a release or two in virtio to
mature before we start pushing it onto other drivers. It shouldn't
take much to cut/paste this into a new driver file once we decide it
is time to start extending it out to other drivers.
I'm not talking about cut/paste and in fact that is what I'm worried
about. I'm talking about common code in net/core/ or somewhere that
would take care of this in-driver bonding. Each driver, like virtio_net,
netvsc would just register some ops to it and the core would do all
logic. I believe it is essential take this approach from the start.
Sorry, I didn't mean cut/paste into another driver, I meant to make it
a driver of its own. My thought was to eventually create a shared/core
driver module that is then used by the other drivers.

My concern right now is that Stephen has indicated he doesn't want
this approach taken with netvsc, and most of the community doesn't
want the netvsc approach applied to virtio. Until that impasse can be
resolved there isn't much value in trying to split this up so it is
available to other drivers. In addition I would imagine it would make
it a pain for others to back-port into distros since it would break
legacy netvsc driver behavior. Patches are always welcome. Once this
is in you are free to try fighting to get this made into a generic
module and applied to both drivers, but we have already spent close to
3 months on this and it seems like there has been significantly more
time spent arguing over the number of interfaces and/or drivers than
spent writing/reviewing actual code.

- Alex
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