Thread (61 messages) 61 messages, 7 authors, 2018-01-25

Re: [patch net-next v2 00/10] Add support for resource abstraction

From: David Ahern <hidden>
Date: 2017-12-27 16:38:54

On 12/27/17 7:15 AM, Jiri Pirko wrote:
Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 02:08:03PM CET, andrew@lunn.ch wrote:
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This is misunderstanding I believe. This is not about ABI. That is well
defined by the netlink attributes. This is about meaning of particular
ASIC-specific internal resources.
I would agree that the netlink attributed are clearly defined. But the
meta information, what this ASIC specific internal resource means when
you combine these attributes, is unclear. This meta information is
also part of the ABI, and documenting giving users a hit what it
means, and why they should change it, would be good practice.

Look at sysfs. open/read/write are clearly defined, which is the
equivalent of the netlink attributes. The meta information we document
in Documentation/ABI/, what a file name means, what a value means,
what other values it can take, etc.
Hmm. That documents mainly sysfs. No mention of Netlink at all. But
maybe I missed it. Also, that defines the interface as is. However we
are talking about the data exchanged over the interface, not the
interface itself. I don't see how ASIC/HW specific thing, like for
example KVD in our case could be part of kernel ABI. That makes 0 sense
to me, sorry.
IMO, kernel documentation is not much better than vendor docs. A general
networking admin may not have access to a kernel tree or have vendor
docs at their finger tips. As I mentioned in the previous response,
devlink attributes have self-documenting capabilities making that
information available inline. That to me is the right place for a short,
but reasonably sized description. For in-depth details users can
cross-reference vendor docs.
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