Thread (32 messages) 32 messages, 5 authors, 2017-11-15

Re: [PATCH V4 net 0/2] ipv6: fix flowlabel issue for reset packet

From: Tom Herbert <hidden>
Date: 2017-08-17 19:07:49

On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 10:26 AM, Shaohua Li [off-list ref] wrote:
On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 05:15:46PM -0700, Tom Herbert wrote:
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On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 3:42 PM, Shaohua Li [off-list ref] wrote:
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On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 07:08:31AM -0700, Tom Herbert wrote:
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On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 7:52 PM, Shaohua Li [off-list ref] wrote:
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On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 06:00:20PM -0700, Tom Herbert wrote:
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On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 12:13 PM, Shaohua Li [off-list ref] wrote:
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On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 11:30:51AM -0700, Tom Herbert wrote:
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On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 9:30 AM, Shaohua Li [off-list ref] wrote:
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On Wed, Aug 09, 2017 at 09:40:08AM -0700, Tom Herbert wrote:
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On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 3:19 PM, Shaohua Li [off-list ref] wrote:
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From: Shaohua Li <redacted>

Please see below tcpdump output:
21:00:48.109122 IP6 (flowlabel 0x43304, hlim 64, next-header TCP (6) payload length: 40) fec0::5054:ff:fe12:3456.55804 > fec0::5054:ff:fe12:3456.5555: Flags [S], cksum 0x0529 (incorrect -> 0xf56c), seq 3282214508, win 43690, options [mss 65476,sackOK,TS val 2500903437 ecr 0,nop,wscale 7], length 0
21:00:48.109381 IP6 (flowlabel 0xd827f, hlim 64, next-header TCP (6) payload length: 40) fec0::5054:ff:fe12:3456.5555 > fec0::5054:ff:fe12:3456.55804: Flags [S.], cksum 0x0529 (incorrect -> 0x49ad), seq 1923801573, ack 3282214509, win 43690, options [mss 65476,sackOK,TS val 2500903437 ecr 2500903437,nop,wscale 7], length 0
21:00:48.109548 IP6 (flowlabel 0x43304, hlim 64, next-header TCP (6) payload length: 32) fec0::5054:ff:fe12:3456.55804 > fec0::5054:ff:fe12:3456.5555: Flags [.], cksum 0x0521 (incorrect -> 0x1bdf), seq 1, ack 1, win 342, options [nop,nop,TS val 2500903437 ecr 2500903437], length 0
21:00:48.109823 IP6 (flowlabel 0x43304, hlim 64, next-header TCP (6) payload length: 62) fec0::5054:ff:fe12:3456.55804 > fec0::5054:ff:fe12:3456.5555: Flags [P.], cksum 0x053f (incorrect -> 0xb8b1), seq 1:31, ack 1, win 342, options [nop,nop,TS val 2500903437 ecr 2500903437], length 30
21:00:48.109910 IP6 (flowlabel 0xd827f, hlim 64, next-header TCP (6) payload length: 32) fec0::5054:ff:fe12:3456.5555 > fec0::5054:ff:fe12:3456.55804: Flags [.], cksum 0x0521 (incorrect -> 0x1bc1), seq 1, ack 31, win 342, options [nop,nop,TS val 2500903437 ecr 2500903437], length 0
21:00:48.110043 IP6 (flowlabel 0xd827f, hlim 64, next-header TCP (6) payload length: 56) fec0::5054:ff:fe12:3456.5555 > fec0::5054:ff:fe12:3456.55804: Flags [P.], cksum 0x0539 (incorrect -> 0xb726), seq 1:25, ack 31, win 342, options [nop,nop,TS val 2500903438 ecr 2500903437], length 24
21:00:48.110173 IP6 (flowlabel 0x43304, hlim 64, next-header TCP (6) payload length: 32) fec0::5054:ff:fe12:3456.55804 > fec0::5054:ff:fe12:3456.5555: Flags [.], cksum 0x0521 (incorrect -> 0x1ba7), seq 31, ack 25, win 342, options [nop,nop,TS val 2500903438 ecr 2500903438], length 0
21:00:48.110211 IP6 (flowlabel 0xd827f, hlim 64, next-header TCP (6) payload length: 32) fec0::5054:ff:fe12:3456.5555 > fec0::5054:ff:fe12:3456.55804: Flags [F.], cksum 0x0521 (incorrect -> 0x1ba7), seq 25, ack 31, win 342, options [nop,nop,TS val 2500903438 ecr 2500903437], length 0
21:00:48.151099 IP6 (flowlabel 0x43304, hlim 64, next-header TCP (6) payload length: 32) fec0::5054:ff:fe12:3456.55804 > fec0::5054:ff:fe12:3456.5555: Flags [.], cksum 0x0521 (incorrect -> 0x1ba6), seq 31, ack 26, win 342, options [nop,nop,TS val 2500903438 ecr 2500903438], length 0
21:00:49.110524 IP6 (flowlabel 0x43304, hlim 64, next-header TCP (6) payload length: 56) fec0::5054:ff:fe12:3456.55804 > fec0::5054:ff:fe12:3456.5555: Flags [P.], cksum 0x0539 (incorrect -> 0xb324), seq 31:55, ack 26, win 342, options [nop,nop,TS val 2500904438 ecr 2500903438], length 24
21:00:49.110637 IP6 (flowlabel 0xb34d5, hlim 64, next-header TCP (6) payload length: 20) fec0::5054:ff:fe12:3456.5555 > fec0::5054:ff:fe12:3456.55804: Flags [R], cksum 0x0515 (incorrect -> 0x668c), seq 1923801599, win 0, length 0

The flowlabel of reset packet (0xb34d5) and flowlabel of normal packet
(0xd827f) are different. This causes our router doesn't correctly close tcp
connection. The patches try to fix the issue.
Shaohua,

Can you give some more detail about what the router doesn't close the
TCP connection means? I'm guessing the problem is either: 1) the
router is maintaining connection state that includes the flow label in
a connection tuple. 2) some router in the path is maintaining
connection state, but when the flow label changes the flow's packet
are routed through a different router that doesn't have a state for
the flow it drops the packet. #1 should be easily fix in the router,
flow labels cannot be used as state. #2 is the known problem that
stateful firewalls have killed our ability to use multihoming.
The #2 is exactly the problem we saw.
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Another consideration is that sk_txhash is also used in routing
decisions by the local host (flow label is normally derived from
txhash). If you want to ensure that connections are routed
consistently for timewait state you might need sk_txhash saved also.
As far as I understood, we don't use sk_txhash for routing selection. The code
does routing selection with flowlabel user configured, at that time we don't
derive fl6.flowlabel from skb->hash (which is from sk_txhash). The code always
does routing selection first and then uses ip6_make_flowlabel to build packet
data where we derive flowlabel from skb->hash.
That is assuming one particular use case. Generally, if you want to
ensure all packets for a flow take the same path you'll need tx_hash
and make it persistent (disable flow bender). For instance, if you
were doing UDP encapsulation like in VXLAN the UDP source port
selection is unaffected by saved flow label for the lifetime of the
flow. So we would still hit #2 in that case and the stateful device
doesn't see whole flow. It might be just as easy to move tx_hash in
skc_common so that it's available in TW state for this purpose. Then
when moving to TW state just copy the tx_hash.
Hi Tom,

My original implementation is to add a tx_hash in tw sock, we then copy sock's
tx_hash to the tw tx_hash. This does makes things simplier. One concern from
Eric is this will increase the size of tw sock. If we move tx_hash to
skc_common, all sock size will increase, is this acceptable?
I think that can only be measured by how critical it is to
persistently route all packets the same exact way for every
connection. Page one of the IP book clearly states that IP packets can
be dropped, duplicated, or received out of order. Received OOO implies
that packet for the same flow are allowed to take different paths. The
requirement that packets for the same flow must always take the same
path through the network was created by stateful middleboxes-- it's
not inherent in the architecture of IP networking. Unfortunately,
we're seeing this become more and more of a problem as more devices
are multi-homed (like smart phones) and these network requirement
cripple our ability to take advantage of features like that.

Personally, I wish the middleboxes fix the problem they created, but I
suppose we need to be pragmatic at least in the short term.
Hmm, I still hesitate to add a new field in skc_common. Fixing current problem
looks propriate in current stage. I'd defer fixing the generic issue till it's
necessary.
Shaohua,

An alternative would be to not initialize sk_txhash, but instead defer
hash computation to use flow dissector in the TX path when the hash is
needed (to get flow label, src port for UDP encap, route for
multipath, etc.). At the first hash computation in TX path  the result
in sk_txhash. TW state there is no socket so flow dissector is
always used but that should yield the same hash. No extra fields would
be needed and additional cost is negligible.
Hi Tom,

Did you mean revert 877d1f6291f8(net: Set sk_txhash from a random number)? This
could fix the issue. So in normal case we calculate the sk_txhash using flow
dissector but in negative routing case we use the random hash, is this what you
want?
No. What you'd want is something like a sysctl that sets an alternate
mode for sk_txhash processing. sk_txhash is derived from flow
dissector for the first TX packet and then it's never allowed to
change. Maybe this should be called persistent-hash mode.
persistent-hash will almostly mean disabling auto flowlabel. We'd prefer
disabling auto flowlabel rather than the persistent-hash. But I think we do
want to use the auto flowlabel for load balancing, so the persistent-hash isn't
a go for us.
Those are two separate features here. Auto flow label means
automatically generating flow labels for packets based on some hash. A
persistent hash means that once a hash is determined for a connection
it never changes, so the flow label derived from the hash never
changes.
Let's take the other way. Your main concern is the multipath selection. I think
this can be fixed. We can still use the tw->tw_flowlabel to store the auto
created flowlabel like what my patch does, but we use an extra bit in tw_pad of
inet_timewait_sock to indicate this flowlabel is auto created. In the reset
packet send path, we don't use the auto created flowlabel for route slection,
but just for packet data. This will keep current multipath selection behavior
and fix the reset packet flowlabel issue.
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There seems to have other bug in this side. From my understanding, commit
265f94ff54d6(net: Recompute sk_txhash on negative routing advice) tries to
select a different route. But the multipath selection code
(rt6_multipath_select) doesn't use sk_txhash or skb->hash, it does use
fl6.flowlabel, but that is the flowlabel user sets. So looks like the commit
doesn't change anything.
The routing functions typically don't use sock of skbuff, but use flow
structs instead. It may be reasonable to add a hash to those.
I'll look at this issue later. It's not related to current flowlabel problem.
As I mentioned already, this is not a problem specific to flowlabels.
This is a problem about getting all the elements of the system work
together to ensure that all packets of flow are routed they same way
in order to meet a requirement imposed by middleboxes. You can solve
this problem just to make flow labels work, but IMO that's just
kicking the can down the road for someone else to have to debug and
solve when they hit the same underlying issue but in a different
context.

Tom
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