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Re: Inconsistency in packet drop due to MTU (eth vs veth)

From: Toshiaki Makita <hidden>
Date: 2017-02-03 14:42:39
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On 17/02/03 (金) 17:07, Fredrik Markstrom wrote:
 ---- On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 17:27:09 +0100 Eric Dumazet [off-list ref] wrote ----
 > On Tue, 2017-01-31 at 14:32 +0100, Fredrik Markstrom wrote:
 > >  ---- On Thu, 19 Jan 2017 19:53:47 +0100 Eric Dumazet [off-list ref] wrote ----
 > >  > On Thu, 2017-01-19 at 17:41 +0100, Fredrik Markstrom wrote:
 > >  > > Hello,
 > >  > >
 > >  > > I've noticed an inconsistency between how physical ethernet and
 > > veth handles mtu.
 > >  > >
 > >  > > If I setup two physical interfaces (directly connected) with
 > > different mtu:s, only the size of the outgoing packets are limited by
 > > the mtu. But with veth a packet is dropped if the mtu of the receiving
 > > interface is smaller then the packet size.
 > >  > >
 > >  > > This seems inconsistent to me, but maybe there is a reason for
 > > it ?
 > >  > >
 > >  > > Can someone confirm if it's a deliberate inconsistency or just a
 > > side effect of using dev_forward_skb() ?
 > >  >
 > >  > It looks this was added in commit
 > >  > 38d408152a86598a50680a82fe3353b506630409
 > >  > ("veth: Allow setting the L3 MTU")
 > >  >
 > >  > But what was really needed here was a way to change MRU :(
 > >
 > > Ok, do we consider this correct and/or something we need to be
 > > backwards compatible with ? Is it insane to believe that we can fix
 > > this "inconsistency" by removing the check ?
 > >
 > > The commit message reads "For consistency I drop packets on the
 > > receive side when they are larger than the MTU", do we know what it's
 > > supposed
 > > to be consistent with or is that lost in history ?
 >
 > There is no consistency among existing Ethernet drivers.
 >
 > Many ethernet drivers size the buffers they post in RX ring buffer
 > according to MTU.
 >
 > If MTU is set to 1500, RX buffers are sized to be about 1536 bytes,
 > so you wont be able to receive a 1700 bytes frame.
 >
 > I guess that you could add a specific veth attribute to precisely
 > control MRU, that would not break existing applications.

Ok, I will propose a patch shortly. And thanks, your response time is
awesome !
But why do you want to configure MRU?
What is the problem with setting MTU instead.

Toshiaki Makita
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