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Re: Inconsistency in packet drop due to MTU (eth vs veth)

From: Eric Dumazet <hidden>
Date: 2017-01-31 16:27:27
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On Tue, 2017-01-31 at 14:32 +0100, Fredrik Markstrom wrote:
 ---- On Thu, 19 Jan 2017 19:53:47 +0100 Eric Dumazet [off-list ref] wrote ---- 
 > On Thu, 2017-01-19 at 17:41 +0100, Fredrik Markstrom wrote: 
 > > Hello, 
 > >  
 > > I've noticed an inconsistency between how physical ethernet and
veth handles mtu. 
 > >  
 > > If I setup two physical interfaces (directly connected) with
different mtu:s, only the size of the outgoing packets are limited by
the mtu. But with veth a packet is dropped if the mtu of the receiving
interface is smaller then the packet size.  
 > >  
 > > This seems inconsistent to me, but maybe there is a reason for
it ?  
 > >  
 > > Can someone confirm if it's a deliberate inconsistency or just a
side effect of using dev_forward_skb() ? 
 >  
 > It looks this was added in commit 
 > 38d408152a86598a50680a82fe3353b506630409 
 > ("veth: Allow setting the L3 MTU") 
 >  
 > But what was really needed here was a way to change MRU :( 

Ok, do we consider this correct and/or something we need to be
backwards compatible with ? Is it insane to believe that we can fix
this "inconsistency" by removing the check ?

The commit message reads "For consistency I drop packets on the
receive side when they are larger than the MTU", do we know what it's
supposed
to be consistent with or is that lost in history ?
There is no consistency among existing Ethernet drivers.

Many ethernet drivers size the buffers they post in RX ring buffer
according to MTU.

If MTU is set to 1500, RX buffers are sized to be about 1536 bytes,
so you wont be able to receive a 1700 bytes frame.

I guess that you could add a specific veth attribute to precisely
control MRU, that would not break existing applications.
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