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Re: [patch net-next v2 09/11] ipv4: fib: Add an API to request a FIB dump

From: Hannes Frederic Sowa <hidden>
Date: 2016-11-24 12:34:39

On 24.11.2016 09:47, Ido Schimmel wrote:
On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 12:04:57AM +0100, Hannes Frederic Sowa wrote:
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On 23.11.2016 20:53, Ido Schimmel wrote:
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On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 06:47:03PM +0100, Hannes Frederic Sowa wrote:
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Hmm, I think you need to read the sequence counter under rtnl_lock to
have an ordering with the rest of the updates to the RCU trie. Otherwise
you don't know if the fib trie has the correct view regarding to the
incoming notifications as a whole. This is also necessary during restarts.
I spent quite a lot of time thinking about this specific issue, but I
couldn't convince myself that the read should be done under RTNL and I'm
not sure I understand your reasoning. Can you please elaborate?

If, before each notification sent, we call atomic_inc() and then call
atomic_read() at the end, then how can we be tricked?
The race I am suspecting to happen is:

<CPU0> fib_register()

<CPU1> delete route by notifier
<CPU1> enqueue delete cmd into ordered queue

<CPU0> starts dump
<CPU0> sees deleted route by CPU1 because route not yet removed from RCU
<CPU0> enqueues route for addition
Yea, I missed this trivial case... My mind was fixed on problems that
could happen after the dump already started. :(

Regarding your suggestion, I think the API will be more useful if we
don't bundle fib_register() and fib_dump() together. We can do the
following instead:

1) Sum 'fib_seq' (doesn't need to be atomic_t anymore) from all net
namespaces under RTNL
You anyway only support init_net, no?

I didn't fully understood what you mean by sum? Using one for the whole
system?

We already have net->ipv4.rt_genid as a per-namespace routing change
counter, have you looked at that?
2) Dump FIB tables under RCU
3) Do 1) again
4) Compare results from 1) and 3) and retry (according to sysctl limit)
if results differ. Before each retry the module's callback (if passed)
will be invoked.

Sounds OK?
Ah, you want to sum up all the fib_seq from all namespaces. Now I got it.

Not sure if that is such a good idea actually. It might make problems
later on if offloading will maybe one day become a per-netns knob for
the respective admins.

But semantically it should work.

If it turns out to be much easier than doing it per-netns, I think this
approach should work.

Bye,
Hannes
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