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Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: hisilicon: Add Fast Ethernet MAC driver

From: Arnd Bergmann <hidden>
Date: 2016-06-28 09:32:14
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On Tuesday, June 28, 2016 5:21:19 PM CEST Dongpo Li wrote:
On 2016/6/15 5:20, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
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On Tuesday, June 14, 2016 9:17:44 PM CEST Li Dongpo wrote:
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On 2016/6/13 17:06, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
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On Monday, June 13, 2016 2:07:56 PM CEST Dongpo Li wrote:
You tx function uses BQL to optimize the queue length, and that
is great. You also check xmit reclaim for rx interrupts, so
as long as you have both rx and tx traffic, this should work
great.

However, I notice that you only have a 'tx fifo empty'
interrupt triggering the napi poll, so I guess on a tx-only
workload you will always end up pushing packets into the
queue until BQL throttles tx, and then get the interrupt
after all packets have been sent, which will cause BQL to
make the queue longer up to the maximum queue size, and that
negates the effect of BQL.

Is there any way you can get a tx interrupt earlier than
this in order to get a more balanced queue, or is it ok
to just rely on rx packets to come in occasionally, and
just use the tx fifo empty interrupt as a fallback?
In tx direction, there are only two kinds of interrupts, 'tx fifo empty'
and 'tx one packet finish'. I didn't use 'tx one packet finish' because
it would lead to high hardware interrupts rate. This has been verified in
our chips. It's ok to just use tx fifo empty interrupt.
I'm not convinced by the explanation, I don't think that has anything
to do with the hardware design, but instead is about the correctness
of the BQL logic with your driver.

Maybe your xmit function can do something like

      if (dql_avail(netdev_get_tx_queue(dev, 0)->dql) < 0)
              enable per-packet interrupt
      else
              use only fifo-empty interrupt

That way, you don't get a lot of interrupts when the system is
in a state of packets being received and sent continuously,
but if you get to the point where your tx queue fills up
and no rx interrupts arrive, you don't have to wait for it
to become completely empty before adding new packets, and
BQL won't keep growing the queue.
Hi, Arnd
I tried enable per-packet interrupt when tx queue full in xmit function
and disable it in NAPI poll. But the number of interrupts are a little
bigger than only using fifo-empty interrupt.
Right, I'd expect that to be the case, it basically means that the
algorithm works as expected.

Just to be sure you didn't have extra interrupts: you only enable the
per-packet interrupts if interrupts are currently enabled, not in
NAPI polling mode, right?
The other hand, this is a fast ethernet MAC. Its maximum speed is 100Mbps.
This speed is very easily achived and the efficiency of the BQL is not
so important. What we focus on is the lower cpu utilization.
So I think it is okay to just use the tx fifo empty interrupt.
BQL is not about efficiency, it's about keeping the latency down, which
is at least as important for low-throughput devices as it is for faster
ones. I don't think that disabling BQL here would be the right answer,
you'd just end up with the maximum TX queue length all the time.

Your queue length is 12 packets of 1500 bytes, meaning that you have 1.4ms
of latency at 100mbit/s rate, or 14ms for 10mbit/s. This is much less
than most, but it's probably still worth using BQL on it.

	Arnd
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