Re: [net-next PATCH V5] qdisc: bulk dequeue support for qdiscs with TCQ_F_ONETXQUEUE
From: Jamal Hadi Salim <jhs@mojatatu.com>
Date: 2014-10-02 13:02:32
From: Jamal Hadi Salim <jhs@mojatatu.com>
Date: 2014-10-02 13:02:32
On 10/02/14 01:18, Dave Taht wrote:
I am not huge on averages. Network theorists tend to think about things in terms of fluid models. Van Jacobson's analogy of a water fountain's operation is very profound... While it is nearly impossible for a conventional Van Neuman time sliced CPU + network to actually act that way, things like BQL and dedicated pipelining systems like those in DPDK are getting closer to that ideal. An example of where averages let you down is on the classic 5 minute data reduction things like mrtg do, where you might see `60% of the bandwidth (capacity/5 minutes) in use, yet still see drops because over shorter intervals (capacity/10ms) you have bursts arriving.
I think in this case, averages makes sense because we are measuring resource utilization - CPU (ab)use. Assuming it costs more when we dont bulk and we make up for it when we bulk, then over the measurement period we can find if it is an overall win. Same thing with bandwidth utilization - instantenous bursts dont tell you the overall utilization (so a double leaky bucket gives you a better picture). cheers, jamal