On 09/26/2011 07:52 AM, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:

On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 11:45:04 -0300
Glauber Costa[off-list ref]  wrote:

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On 09/22/2011 12:09 PM, Balbir Singh wrote:

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On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Greg Thelen[off-list ref]   wrote:

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On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 11:59 AM, Glauber Costa[off-list ref]   wrote:

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Right now I am working under the assumption that tasks are long lived inside
the cgroup. Migration potentially introduces some nasty locking problems in
the mem_schedule path.

Also, unless I am missing something, the memcg already has the policy of
not carrying charges around, probably because of this very same complexity.

True that at least it won't EBUSY you... But I think this is at least a way
to guarantee that the cgroup under our nose won't disappear in the middle of
our allocations.

Here's the memcg user page behavior using the same pattern:

1. user page P is allocate by task T in memcg M1
2. T is moved to memcg M2.  The P charge is left behind still charged
to M1 if memory.move_charge_at_immigrate=0; or the charge is moved to
M2 if memory.move_charge_at_immigrate=1.
3. rmdir M1 will try to reclaim P (if P was left in M1).  If unable to
reclaim, then P is recharged to parent(M1).

We also have some magic in page_referenced() to remove pages
referenced from different containers. What we do is try not to
penalize a cgroup if another cgroup is referencing this page and the
page under consideration is being reclaimed from the cgroup that
touched it.

Balbir Singh

Do you guys see it as a showstopper for this series to be merged, or can
we just TODO it ?

In my experience, 'I can't rmdir cgroup.' is always an important/difficult
problem. The users cannot know where the accouting is leaking other than
kmem.usage_in_bytes or memory.usage_in_bytes. and can't fix the issue.

please add EXPERIMENTAL to Kconfig until this is fixed.

I am working on something here that may allow it.
But I think it is independent of the rest, and I can repost the series 
fixing the problems raised here without it, + EXPERIMENTAL.

Btw, using EXPERIMENTAL here is a very good idea. I think that we should
turn EXPERIMENTAL on even if I fix for that exists, for a least a couple
of months until we see how this thing really evolves.

What do you think?

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I can push a proposal for it, but it would be done in a separate patch
anyway. Also, we may be in better conditions to fix this when the slab
part is merged - since it will likely have the same problems...

Yes. considering sockets which can be shared between tasks(cgroups)
you'll finally need
   - owner task of socket
   - account moving callback

Or disallow task moving once accounted.

I personally think disallowing task movement once accounted is 
reasonable. At least for starters.

I think I can add at least that to the next proposal. Famous last words 
is, it should not be that hard...

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