Thread (44 messages) 44 messages, 10 authors, 2008-01-09

Re: [RFC] TCP illinois max rtt aging

From: Ilpo Järvinen <hidden>
Date: 2007-12-07 13:06:04

On Fri, 7 Dec 2007, David Miller wrote:
From: "Ilpo_Järvinen" <redacted>
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 13:05:46 +0200 (EET)
quoted
I guess if you get a large cumulative ACK, the amount of processing is 
still overwhelming (added DaveM if he has some idea how to combat it).

Even a simple scenario (this isn't anything fancy at all, will occur all 
the time): Just one loss => rest skbs grow one by one into a single 
very large SACK block (and we do that efficiently for sure) => then the 
fast retransmit gets delivered and a cumulative ACK for whole orig_window 
arrives => clean_rtx_queue has to do a lot of processing. In this case we 
could optimize RB-tree cleanup away (by just blanking it all) but still 
getting rid of all those skbs is going to take a larger moment than I'd 
like to see.

That tree blanking could be extended to cover anything which ACK more than 
half of the tree by just replacing the root (and dealing with potential 
recolorization of the root).
Yes, it's the classic problem.  But it ought to be at least
partially masked when TSO is in use, because we'll only process
a handful of SKBs.  The more effectively TSO batches, the
less work clean_rtx_queue() will do.
No, that's not what is going to happen, TSO won't help at all
because one-by-one SACKs will fragment every single one of them
(see tcp_match_skb_to_sack) :-(. ...So we're back in non-TSO
case, or am I missing something?
Web100 just provides statistics and other kinds of connection data
to userspace, all the actual algorithm etc. modifications have been
merged upstream and yanked out of the web100 patch.  I was looking
at it the other night and it's frankly totally uninteresting these
days :-)
...Thanks, I'll keep that in my mind when looking... :-)


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