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Re: [PATCH 6/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently on frv

From: Segher Boessenkool <hidden>
Date: 2007-08-15 20:16:40
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Well if there is only one memory location involved, then smp_rmb()
isn't
going to really do anything anyway, so it would be incorrect to use
it.
rmb() orders *any* two reads; that includes two reads from the same
location.
If the two reads are to the same location, all CPUs I am aware of
will maintain the ordering without need for a memory barrier.
That's true of course, although there is no real guarantee for that.
A CPU that did not provide this property ("cache coherence") would be
most emphatically reviled.
That doesn't have anything to do with coherency as far as I can see.

It's just about the order in which a CPU (speculatively) performs the 
loads
(which isn't necessarily the same as the order in which it executes the
corresponding instructions, even).
So we are pretty safe assuming that CPUs
will provide it.
Yeah, pretty safe.  I just don't like undocumented assumptions :-)


Segher
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