Thread (34 messages) 34 messages, 6 authors, 2017-08-16

Re: [PATCH v6 01/17] powerpc/vas: Define macros, register fields and structures

From: Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>
Date: 2017-08-16 12:07:45
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Sukadev Bhattiprolu [off-list ref] writes:
Nicholas Piggin [npiggin@gmail.com] wrote:
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On Mon, 14 Aug 2017 15:21:48 +1000
Michael Ellerman [off-list ref] wrote:
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Sukadev Bhattiprolu [off-list ref] writes:
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 arch/powerpc/include/asm/vas.h       |  35 ++++
 arch/powerpc/include/uapi/asm/vas.h  |  25 +++  
I thought we weren't exposing VAS to userspace yet?

If we are then we need to get things straight WRT copy/paste abort.
...
In the FTW case, there is no data transfer from user space to the hardware.
i.e the copy/paste submit a NULL CRB and hardware will be configured (see
->fifo_disable setting in winctx) to ignore any data they specify in the CRB.
I thought the copy did copy a cacheline, but then the paste to the VAS
window just ignores the contents, and doesn't allow userspace to get the
content in any way?

Which means we have two thirds of a covert channel, ie. something can be
copied into the copy buffer by one process, and then a second process
can paste it, but because it can only paste to foreign memory, and the
only foreign memory it can get is a VAS FTW window, it can't actually
see the content of the copy buffer.
Would we be able to allow copy/paste from user space in that case?
Yeah I think so, but it is all a bit fragile.

cheers
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