Re: [RFC PATCH 2/3] topology: support node_numa_mem() for determining the fallback node
From: Nishanth Aravamudan <hidden>
Date: 2014-07-22 01:03:14
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On 10.02.2014 [10:09:36 +0900], Joonsoo Kim wrote:
On Sat, Feb 08, 2014 at 01:57:39AM -0800, David Rientjes wrote:quoted
On Fri, 7 Feb 2014, Joonsoo Kim wrote:quoted
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It seems like a better approach would be to do this when a node is brought online and determine the fallback node based not on the zonelists as you do here but rather on locality (such as through a SLIT if provided, see node_distance()).Hmm... I guess that zonelist is base on locality. Zonelist is generated using node_distance(), so I think that it reflects locality. But, I'm not expert on NUMA, so please let me know what I am missing here :)The zonelist is, yes, but I'm talking about memoryless and cpuless nodes. If your solution is going to become the generic kernel API that determines what node has local memory for a particular node, then it will have to support all definitions of node. That includes nodes that consist solely of I/O, chipsets, networking, or storage devices. These nodes may not have memory or cpus, so doing it as part of onlining cpus isn't going to be generic enough. You want a node_to_mem_node() API for all possible node types (the possible node types listed above are straight from the ACPI spec). For 99% of people, node_to_mem_node(X) is always going to be X and we can optimize for that, but any solution that relies on cpu online is probably shortsighted right now. I think it would be much better to do this as a part of setting a node to be online.Okay. I got your point. I will change it to rely on node online if this patch is really needed.
Sorry for bringing up this old thread again, but I had a question for you, David. node_to_mem_node(), which does seem like a useful API, doesn't seem like it can just node_distance() solely, right? Because that just tells us the relative cost (or so I think about it) of using resources from that node. But we also need to know if that node itself has memory, etc. So using the zonelists is required no matter what? And upon memory hotplug (or unplug), the topology can change in a way that affects things, so node online time isn't right either? Thanks, Nish