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Re: ppc: RECLAIM_DISTANCE 10?

From: Michal Hocko <hidden>
Date: 2014-02-19 08:23:16
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On Tue 18-02-14 15:34:05, Nishanth Aravamudan wrote:
Hi Michal,

On 18.02.2014 [10:06:58 +0100], Michal Hocko wrote:
quoted
Hi,
I have just noticed that ppc has RECLAIM_DISTANCE reduced to 10 set by
56608209d34b (powerpc/numa: Set a smaller value for RECLAIM_DISTANCE to
enable zone reclaim). The commit message suggests that the zone reclaim
is desirable for all NUMA configurations.

History has shown that the zone reclaim is more often harmful than
helpful and leads to performance problems. The default RECLAIM_DISTANCE
for generic case has been increased from 20 to 30 around 3.0
(32e45ff43eaf mm: increase RECLAIM_DISTANCE to 30).
Interesting.
quoted
I strongly suspect that the patch is incorrect and it should be
reverted. Before I will send a revert I would like to understand what
led to the patch in the first place. I do not see why would PPC use only
LOCAL_DISTANCE and REMOTE_DISTANCE distances and in fact machines I have
seen use different values.

Anton, could you comment please?
I'll let Anton comment here, but in looking into this issue in working
on CONFIG_HAVE_MEMORYLESS_NODE support, I realized that any LPAR with
memoryless nodes will set zone_reclaim_mode to 1. I think we want to
ignore memoryless nodes when we set up the reclaim mode like the
following? I'll send it as a proper patch if you agree?
Funny enough, ppc memoryless node setup is what led me to this code.
We had a setup like this:
node 0 cpus: 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15
node 0 size: 0 MB
node 0 free: 0 MB
node 2 cpus:
node 2 size: 7168 MB
node 2 free: 6019 MB
node distances:
node   0   2
0:  10  40
2:  40  10

Which ends up enabling zone_reclaim although there is only a single node
with memory. Not that RECLAIM_DISTANCE would make any difference here as
the distance is even above default RECLAIM_DISTANCE.
quoted hunk ↗ jump to hunk
diff --git a/mm/page_alloc.c b/mm/page_alloc.c
index 5de4337..4f6ff6f 100644
--- a/mm/page_alloc.c
+++ b/mm/page_alloc.c
@@ -1853,8 +1853,9 @@ static void __paginginit init_zone_allows_reclaim(int nid)
 {
        int i;
 
-       for_each_online_node(i)
-               if (node_distance(nid, i) <= RECLAIM_DISTANCE)
+       for_each_online_node(i) {
+               if (node_distance(nid, i) <= RECLAIM_DISTANCE ||
+                                       local_memory_node(nid) != nid)
                        node_set(i, NODE_DATA(nid)->reclaim_nodes);
                else
                        zone_reclaim_mode = 1;
Note, this won't actually do anything if CONFIG_HAVE_MEMORYLESS_NODES is
not set, but if it is, I think semantically it will indicate that
memoryless nodes *have* to reclaim remotely.

And actually the above won't work, because the callpath is

start_kernel -> setup_arch -> paging_init [-> free_area_init_nodes ->
free_area_init_node -> init_zone_allows_reclaim] which is called before
build_all_zonelists. This is a similar ordering problem as I'm having
with the MEMORYLESS_NODE support, will work on it.
I think you just want for_each_node_state(nid, N_MEMORY) and skip all
the memory less nodes, no?
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs
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