On Mon, 2007-07-23 at 20:58 +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:

* Daniel Walker [off-list ref] wrote:

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(btw, your comment above comes off very snide, which I don't 
appreciate. I haven't done anything that remotely warrants that.)

That snideness is simply a reflection, to make you realize how it feels. 
I tried to point this issue out to you in the past, but here we go 
again, back to square one. But i'm not giving up on you :-)

I could say the same thing ".. here we go again .." 
 

Peter sent a patch to a subtly buggy patch of yours (which introduces a 
bug worse than it fixes), with this comment:

I'm with you up to this point ..

 | | How about this - compile tested only

and you replied in this almost flagrant tone:

 | How about a comment to go with it ?  Which says something like what's 
 | above, notes on how the locking is getting used.. "

before I sent this I must have accidentally delete the "Ok." which
originally proceeded the above.

that kind of tone can be offensive, in such a context. I _know_ you 
(still) dont realize it as offensive and that you dont accept my 
characterisation of it, but nevertheless it's a fact and i'm going to 
complain about it to you when i see you do it.

I do disagree with the way your accepting this .. I wouldn't say "It's a
fact" either, since I don't accept similar comments from other people
the way your accepting it .. English generally is pretty loose. I could
say "That car is bad" which could literally mean the car is good or
nice.. There is a whole cornucopia of things that need to be considered.

A proper polite answer to the helpful patch of Peter would have been 
what i suggested:

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how about: "if you've got some time then please also add a few 
comments, because the code was quite non-obvious to me and I 
misunderstood it when I tried to fix it. Thanks."

the basis of writing such replies is a certain level of humility and 
fundamental respect towards the capabilities of other kernel developers. 
Do you have it? If yes, are you willing to express it? If yes then 
please do so.

I didn't argue with Peter , which means I agree with what he said .. He
was right, I was wrong and I accepted what he said in it's entirety ..
Certainly there is a level of respect there.. Had I argued with him it
would be different .

I'm a minimalist .. I don't say more than I need to, and it's not about
respect or superiority .. For example, I don't like saying "I think" or
"My opinion is" since that's implicit in my comments. If I'm writing
something clearly that's my opinion .. And a question mark alone
represents "Do you have it? If yes, are you willing to express it? If
yes then please do so"

Daniel