Re: [PATCH 0/3 -v3] GFP_NOFAIL cleanups
From: Vlastimil Babka <hidden>
Date: 2017-01-03 16:25:12
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On 01/03/2017 03:38 PM, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
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I'm OK with "[PATCH 1/3] mm: consolidate GFP_NOFAIL checks in the allocator slowpath" given that we describe that we make __GFP_NOFAIL stronger than __GFP_NORETRY with this patch in the changelog.Again. __GFP_NORETRY | __GFP_NOFAIL is nonsense! I do not really see any reason to describe all the nonsense combinations of gfp flags.Before [PATCH 1/3]: __GFP_NORETRY is used as "Do not invoke the OOM killer. Fail allocation request even if __GFP_NOFAIL is specified if direct reclaim/compaction did not help." __GFP_NOFAIL is used as "Never fail allocation request unless __GFP_NORETRY is specified even if direct reclaim/compaction did not help." After [PATCH 1/3]: __GFP_NORETRY is used as "Do not invoke the OOM killer. Fail allocation request unless __GFP_NOFAIL is specified." __GFP_NOFAIL is used as "Never fail allocation request even if direct reclaim/compaction did not help. Invoke the OOM killer unless __GFP_NORETRY is specified." Thus, __GFP_NORETRY | __GFP_NOFAIL perfectly makes sense as "Never fail allocation request if direct reclaim/compaction did not help. But do not invoke the OOM killer even if direct reclaim/compaction did not help."
It may technically do that, but how exactly is that useful, i.e. "make sense"? Patch 2/3 here makes sure that OOM killer is not invoked when the allocation context is "limited" and thus OOM might be premature (despite __GFP_NOFAIL). What's the use case for __GFP_NORETRY | __GFP_NOFAIL ?
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But I don't think "[PATCH 2/3] mm, oom: do not enfore OOM killer for __GFP_NOFAIL automatically" is correct. Firstly, we need to confirm "The pre-mature OOM killer is a real issue as reported by Nils Holland" in the changelog is still true because we haven't tested with "[PATCH] mm, memcg: fix the active list aging for lowmem requests when memcg is enabled" applied and without "[PATCH 2/3] mm, oom: do not enfore OOM killer for __GFP_NOFAIL automatically" and "[PATCH 3/3] mm: help __GFP_NOFAIL allocations which do not trigger OOM killer" applied.Yes I have dropped the reference to this report already in my local patch because in this particular case the issue was somewhere else indeed!OK.quoted
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Secondly, as you are using __GFP_NORETRY in "[PATCH] mm: introduce kv[mz]alloc helpers" as a mean to enforce not to invoke the OOM killer /* * Make sure that larger requests are not too disruptive - no OOM * killer and no allocation failure warnings as we have a fallback */ if (size > PAGE_SIZE) kmalloc_flags |= __GFP_NORETRY | __GFP_NOWARN; , we can use __GFP_NORETRY as a mean to enforce not to invoke the OOM killer rather than applying "[PATCH 2/3] mm, oom: do not enfore OOM killer for __GFP_NOFAIL automatically".As I wrote above, __GFP_NORETRY | __GFP_NOFAIL perfectly makes sense.quoted
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Additionally, although currently there seems to be no kv[mz]alloc(GFP_KERNEL | __GFP_NOFAIL) users, kvmalloc_node() in "[PATCH] mm: introduce kv[mz]alloc helpers" will be confused when a kv[mz]alloc(GFP_KERNEL | __GFP_NOFAIL) user comes in in the future because "[PATCH 1/3] mm: consolidate GFP_NOFAIL checks in the allocator slowpath" makes __GFP_NOFAIL stronger than __GFP_NORETRY.Using NOFAIL in kv[mz]alloc simply makes no sense at all. The vmalloc fallback would be simply unreachable!My intention is shown below. void *kvmalloc_node(size_t size, gfp_t flags, int node) { gfp_t kmalloc_flags = flags; void *ret; /* * vmalloc uses GFP_KERNEL for some internal allocations (e.g page tables) * so the given set of flags has to be compatible. */ WARN_ON_ONCE((flags & GFP_KERNEL) != GFP_KERNEL); /* * Make sure that larger requests are not too disruptive - no OOM * killer and no allocation failure warnings as we have a fallback */ - if (size > PAGE_SIZE) + if (size > PAGE_SIZE) { kmalloc_flags |= __GFP_NORETRY | __GFP_NOWARN; + kmalloc_flags &= ~__GFP_NOFAIL;
This does make kvmalloc_node more robust against callers that would try to use it with __GFP_NOFAIL, but is it a good idea to allow that right now? If there are none yet (AFAIK?), we should rather let the existing WARN_ON kick in (which won't happen if we strip __GFP_NOFAIL) and discuss a better solution for such new future caller. Also this means the kmalloc() cannot do "__GFP_NORETRY | __GFP_NOFAIL" so I'm not sure how it's related with your points above - it's not an example of the combination that would show that "it makes perfect sense". Thanks, Vlastimil -- To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in the body to majordomo@kvack.org. For more info on Linux MM, see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ . Don't email: <a href=mailto:"dont@kvack.org"> email@kvack.org </a>