Thread (72 messages) 72 messages, 13 authors, 2002-07-13

Re: vm lock contention reduction

From: Andrew Morton <hidden>
Date: 2002-07-07 02:50:41

Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
On Thu, Jul 04, 2002 at 11:33:45PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
quoted
Well.  First locks first.  kmap_lock is a bad one on x86.
Actually I thought about kmap_lock and the per-process kmaps a bit more
with Martin (cc'ed) during OLS and there is an easy process-scalable
solution to drop:
Martin is being bitten by the global invalidate more than by the lock.
He increased the size of the kmap pool just to reduce the invalidate
frequency and saw 40% speedups of some stuff.

Those invalidates don't show up nicely on profiles.
        the kmap_lock
        in turn the global pool
        in turn the global tlb flush

The only problem is that it's not anymore both atomic *and* persistent,
it's only persistent. It's also atomic if the mm_count == 1, but the
kernel cannot rely on it, it has to assume it's a blocking operation
always (you find it out if it's blocking only at runtime).
I was discussing this with sct a few days back.  iiuc, the proposal
was to create a small per-cpu pool (say, 4-8 pages) which is a
"front-end" to regular old kmap().

Any time you have one of these pages in use, the process gets
pinned onto the current CPU. If we run out of per-cpu kmaps,
just fall back to traditional kmap().

It does mean that this variant of kmap() couldn't just return
a `struct page *' - it would have to return something richer
than that.
In short the same design of the per-process kmaps will work just fine if
we add a semaphore to the mm_struct. then before starting using the kmap
entry we must acquire the semaphore. This way all the global locking and
global tlb flush goes away completely for normal tasks, but still
remains the contention of that per-mm semaphore with threads doing
simutaneous pte manipulation or simultaneous pagecache I/O though.
Furthmore this I/O will be serialized, threaded benchmark like dbench
may perform poorly that way I suspect, or we should add a pool of
userspace pages so more than 1 thread is allowed to go ahead, but still
we may cacheline-bounce in the synchronization of the pool across
threads (similar to what we do now in the global pool).

Then there's the problem the pagecache/FS API should be changed to pass
the vaddr through the stack because page->virtual would go away, the
virtual address would be per-process protected by the mm->kmap_sem so we
couldn't store it in a global, all tasks can kmap the same page at the
same time at virtual vaddr. This as well will break some common code.

Last but not the least, I hope in 2.6 production I won't be running
benchmarks and profiling using a 32bit cpu anymore anyways.

So I'm not very motivated anymore in doing that change after the comment
from Linus about the issue with threads.
I believe that IBM have 32gig, 8- or 16-CPU ia32 machines just
coming into production now.  Presumably, they're not the only
ones.  We're stuck with this mess for another few years.

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