Thread (45 messages) 45 messages, 12 authors, 2017-03-16

Re: [RFC PATCH 00/13] Introduce first class virtual address spaces

From: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
Date: 2017-03-14 00:58:01
Also in: alsa-devel, linux-alpha, linux-api, linux-arch, linux-fsdevel, linux-mm, linuxppc-dev

On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 3:14 PM, Till Smejkal
[off-list ref] wrote:
This patchset extends the kernel memory management subsystem with a new
type of address spaces (called VAS) which can be created and destroyed
independently of processes by a user in the system. During its lifetime
such a VAS can be attached to processes by the user which allows a process
to have multiple address spaces and thereby multiple, potentially
different, views on the system's main memory. During its execution the
threads belonging to the process are able to switch freely between the
different attached VAS and the process' original AS enabling them to
utilize the different available views on the memory.
Sounds like the old SKAS feature for UML.
In addition to the concept of first class virtual address spaces, this
patchset introduces yet another feature called VAS segments. VAS segments
are memory regions which have a fixed size and position in the virtual
address space and can be shared between multiple first class virtual
address spaces. Such shareable memory regions are especially useful for
in-memory pointer-based data structures or other pure in-memory data.
This sounds rather complicated.  Getting TLB flushing right seems
tricky.  Why not just map the same thing into multiple mms?
            |     VAS     |  processes  |
    -------------------------------------
    switch  |       468ns |      1944ns |
The solution here is IMO to fix the scheduler.

Also, FWIW, I have patches (that need a little work) that will make
switch_mm() waaaay faster on x86.
At the current state of the development, first class virtual address spaces
have one limitation, that we haven't been able to solve so far. The feature
allows, that different threads of the same process can execute in different
AS at the same time. This is possible, because the VAS-switch operation
only changes the active mm_struct for the task_struct of the calling
thread. However, when a thread switches into a first class virtual address
space, some parts of its original AS are duplicated into the new one to
allow the thread to continue its execution at its current state.
Ick.  Please don't do this.  Can we please keep an mm as just an mm
and not make it look magically different depending on which process
maps it?  If you need a trampoline (which you do, of course), just
write a trampoline in regular user code and map it manually.

--Andy
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