Thread (44 messages) 44 messages, 6 authors, 2021-08-06

Re: [PATCH v1] driver: base: Add driver filter support

From: Dan Williams <hidden>
Date: 2021-08-04 20:11:44
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On Wed, Aug 4, 2021 at 12:29 PM Greg Kroah-Hartman
[off-list ref] wrote:
On Wed, Aug 04, 2021 at 10:43:22AM -0700, Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan wrote:
quoted
Intel's Trust Domain Extensions (TDX) is a new Intel technology that
adds support for VMs to maintain confidentiality and integrity in the
presence of an untrusted VMM.

Given the VMM is an untrusted entity and the VMM presents emulated
hardware to the guest, a threat vector similar to Thunderclap [1] is
present. Also, for ease of deployment, it is useful to be able to use
the same kernel binary on host and guest, but that presents a wide
attack surface given the range of hardware supported in typical
builds. However, TDX guests only require a small number of drivers, a
number small enough to audit for Thunderclap style attacks, and the
rest can be disabled via policy. Add a mechanism to filter drivers
based on a "protected-guest trusted" indication.
So you are trying to work around the "problem" that distro kernels
provides drivers for everything by adding additional kernel complexity?

What prevents you from using a sane, stripped down, kernel image for
these vms which would keep things sane and simpler and easier to audit
and most importantly, prove, that the image is not doing something you
don't expect it to do?

Why not just make distros that want to support this type of platform,
also provide these tiny kernel images?  Why are you pushing this work on
the kernel community instead?
In fact, these questions are where I started when first encountering
this proposal. Andi has addressed the single kernel image constraint,
but I want to pick up on this "pushing work to the kernel community"
contention. The small list of vetted drivers that a TDX guest needs
will be built-in and maintained in the kernel by the protected guest
developer community, so no "pushing work" there. However, given that
any driver disable mechanism needs to touch the driver core I
advocated to go ahead and make this a general purpose capability to
pick up where this [1] conversation left off. I.e. a general facility
for the corner cases that modprobe and kernel config policy can not
reach. Corner cases like VMM attacking the VM, or broken hardware with
a built-in driver that can't be unbound after the fact.

[1]: https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20170928090901.GC12599@kroah.com/ (local)
quoted
An alternative solution is to disable untrusted drivers using a custom
kernel config for TDX, but such solution will break our goal of using
same kernel binary in guest/host or in standard OS distributions. So
it is not considered.
Why is that a goal that you _have_ to have?  Who is making that
requirement?
quoted
Driver filter framework adds support to filter drivers at boot
time by using platform specific allow list. This is a generic
solution that can be reused by TDX. Driver filter framework adds a
new hook (driver_allowed()) in driver_register() interface which
will update the "allowed" status of the driver based on platform
specific driver allow list or deny list. During driver bind process,
trusted status is used to determine whether to continue or deny the
bind process. If platform does not register any allow or deny list,
all devices will be allowed. Platforms can use wildcard like "ALL:ALL"
in bus_name and driver_name of filter node to allow or deny all
bus and drivers.

Per driver opt-in model is also considered as an alternative design
choice, but central allow or deny list is chosen because it is
easier to maintain and audit. Also, "driver self serve" might be
abused by mistake by driver authors cutting and pasting the code.

Also add an option in kernel command line and sysfs to update the
allowed or denied drivers list. Driver filter allowed status
can be read using following command.

cat /sys/bus/$bus/drivers/$driver/allowed
You added a sysfs file without Documentation/ABI/ update as well?

{sigh}
Argh, my fault, that one slipped through in the internal review.
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