Re: [PATCH v11 00/13] Intel SGX1 support
From: Pavel Machek <hidden>
Date: 2018-12-09 20:06:07
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Hi! (sorry to bring up old thread).
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Intel(R) SGX is a set of CPU instructions that can be used by applications to set aside private regions of code and data. The code outside the enclave is disallowed to access the memory inside the enclave by the CPU access control. In a way you can think that SGX provides inverted sandbox. It protects the application from a malicious host.Do you intend to allow non-root applications to use SGX? What are non-evil uses for SGX? ...because it is quite useful for some kinds of evil:The default permissions for the device are 600.Good. This does not belong to non-root.There are entirely legitimate use cases for using this as an unprivileged user. However, that'll be up to system and distribution policy, which can evolve over time, and it makes sense for the *initial* kernel permission to start out root-only and then adjust permissions via udev.
Agreed.
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What are some non-evil uses for SGX?Building a software certificate store. Hardening key-agent software like ssh-agent or gpg-agent. Building a challenge-response authentication system. Providing more assurance that your server infrastructure is uncompromised. Offloading computation to a system without having to fully trust that system.
I think you can do the crypto stuff... as crypto already verifies the results. But I don't think you can do the computation offload.
As one of many possibilities, imagine a distcc that didn't have to trust the compile nodes. The compile nodes could fail to return results at all, but they couldn't alter the results.
distcc on untrusted nodes ... oh yes, that would be great. Except that you can't do it, right? :-). First, AFAICT it would be quite hard to get gcc to run under SGX. But maybe you have spare month or three and can do it. But ... you really can't guarantee getting right results. Evil owner of the machine might intentionaly overheat the CPU, glitch the power, induce single-bit errors using gamma source, ... You can't do it. Pavel -- (english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek (cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html
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